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Topic: Anyone able to explain how SMU got left out?
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CatFanInYankeeville
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posted 03-18-2014 08:28 PM
A top 25 team and they don't get an at-large bid? I know the committee chairman talked about it Sunday night, but I missed the segment. Anyone able to shed some light?
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Trey Ball
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posted 03-18-2014 09:25 PM
The reasoning was their out of conference schedule was extremely weak. Personally, I think they should have been in before BYU/Arizona State/Iowa/NC State/Xavier
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catmandoo
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posted 03-18-2014 09:26 PM
The only thing I can see was they lost their last
games of the season to Louisville Memphis and Houston. Don't know if I agree with that but it's the way the committee saw it...
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Old Norm
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posted 03-18-2014 09:32 PM
The greatest injustice of all was Louisville getting a 4 seed, and Puke getting a 3. And I am NOT a Louisville fan, but right is right and wrong is wrong.
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WHO?UK
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posted 03-19-2014 07:10 AM
SMU 4-3 vs top 25…. Weak out of conference schedule… But They beat 4 of the 7 ranked teams they played… Ranked in the top 25 at the end of the year.
Cats… 1-6 vs top 25… Strong SOS not ranked at the end of the year. Only won one game of the 7 ranked teams they played. But still made the tournament.
I said it 2 weeks ago. 9 out of 10 times I got my blue shades on but this year, just like last year… We should not have made the tournament. And a lesser program got left out because of it. ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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SCWC
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posted 03-19-2014 09:05 AM
Our getting in the tournament had nothing whatsoever to do with SMU being left out. We are not that strong again this season but we do deserve being in the tournament. Programs lesser than us should have been left out.
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posted 03-19-2014 09:36 AM
They're lying thru their teeth. They had to do some picking and choosing besides going strictly by their guidelines.
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posted 03-19-2014 10:17 AM
I bleed blue like the rest of everyone here. But Im not drinking the blue kool aid this year. Y'all must have gotten a stronger batch than me.
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posted 03-19-2014 11:18 AM
yes, because NCAA stands for No Clue At All
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posted 03-19-2014 12:05 PM
Who, I think you are saying SMU got left out of the tournament because we got in but in the same post you are saying they are a lesser team. Which is it???? I don't look at this UK team through blue tinted glasses. We are not that strong but our being in (which we deserve) has nothing at all to do with the SMU situation. We are an 8 seed, not a play in seed. I agree, the NCAA don't always get it right but our getting in has nothing at all to do with SMU being left out.
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posted 03-20-2014 12:26 PM
SCWC... I didnt say lesser team... I said lesser program.
UK will fill seats and bump up ratings. SMU will not be able to do the same.
SMU is the better team this year on paper. And should of made the tournament. Thats just a fact. Is it not sad for a top 25 to not get and at large bid... But UK a team not in the top 25 get one.
Us making the tournament is purely based on preseason hype, tickets and ratings.
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posted 03-20-2014 12:32 PM
So are you saying only one team should have gone from the SEC? If not UK then who else?
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posted 03-20-2014 12:37 PM
The only fact Im trying to state is that our Cats made the tournament this year because they are KENTUCKY. SMU didnt make the tournament this year because they are SMU...
Look at there records. SMU 4-3 vs top 25 Ranked 25th at the end of the year.
Kentucky 1-7 vs top 25 with a loss to USC who is in the bottom 150...
NCAA was looking at rating not the the season these teams posted.
And SOS doesnt mean a thing if you dont win any of those games. You can have the toughest schedule year in and year out. But if you only beat one ranked team what does that really say.
Wildcatfanatic - I dont think the SEC should be promised any more at large bids than any other conference... The way it played out this year UF is the only SEC team that should be in the tournament.
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posted 03-20-2014 01:30 PM
Lesser team, lesser program, means the same to me. I still don't get your point of why UK kept SMU out of the tournament. If you read my first response to your post, I said programs lesser than us should have been left out.
Should SMU have been let in and UK left out, NO WAY.
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posted 03-20-2014 02:03 PM
SCWC to answer your question... Yes SMU should of been in and UK should of been out. SMU ranked 25th UK not ranked. SMU 4-3 vs top 25 UK 1-7 vs top 25.
Give me your answer on why UK should be in and SMU should be out?
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posted 03-20-2014 02:29 PM
I disagree but you certainly are entitled to your opinion just like I am mine. I do not think we are that good a team but I do feel we would beat SMU 7 out of 10 games if we played them, regardless of top 25 ratings. I have seen them play at least 5 games on TV, they are not that strong in my opinion. There are a lot of teams rated much lower than UK that are in, why not pick one of them and lay the blame there rather than on UK for SMU not being in. Take one of those 6 bids for either the ACC, Big Ten or the 7 from the Big 12 and give them one of them. My view has nothing to do with Blue tinted glasses.
One simple answer to your question, UK are a better team than SMU and that is why they are in and SMU out.
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Quote from Trey Ball:
The reasoning was their out of conference schedule was extremely weak. Personally, I think they should have been in before BYU/Arizona State/Iowa/NC State/Xavier quote:
They probably should have been in ahead of the teams Trey Ball listed but not UK. Everyone knows the NCAA will do Kentucky no special favors by putting them in their tournament. Everyone was expecting Kentucky to get a six seed but what do they do, give them an 8 and put them playing against a very tough 9 seed in Kansas State.
They got 4 teams from their conference in, U of L which is a 4 seed, Cincy a 5 seed, UConn a 7 and Memphis an 8. That is a pretty good representation for a newly formed league.
They probably should have gotten in ahead of some of those other teams. My only contention is that UK is not the only team that kept them out of the tournament, there are many weaker teams than us that got at large bids. After all, 3 of our losses were to the overall number one seed Florida.
[ 03-20-2014, 03:59 PM: Message edited by: SCWC ]
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posted 03-20-2014 08:38 PM
SMU's record against ranked opponents just happen to be in their conf. Otherwise their out of conf strength of schedule was weak!
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posted 03-21-2014 04:58 AM
SCWC... I totally agree with that. I guess my frustration with this years team is that we should be more grateful of our 8 seed than complaining about not getting a 6 seed.
Yes all those teams you named should be out too at least before SMU should of been out. I guess I just think its a real shame that a team is ranked 25th overall and does not get an at large bid.
It doesnt matter how weak there out of conference schedule is... When they had a winning record against all the ranked teams they played.
SCWC... You are absolutely right when saying, "its not like the NCAA is doing us any favors." Outside of this year... I cant remember a time when they didnt stick it to us.
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SCWC
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posted 03-21-2014 07:09 AM
Who?UK, I have no problem with our 8 seed either. I think we are basically saying the same thing. I too felt sure SMU would be in but was rather shocked that they were left out. My only point in this was that it was no UK and UK alone that kept them out, there were a lot of at large teams that got in with lesser credentials than SMU had, no doubt about that.
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posted 03-21-2014 08:34 AM
Agreed.
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