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Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 10-21-2020, 11:38 AM:
 
Tomorrow's presidential debate will be a farce. Mister Biden will get softball questions, with never a mention of the Hunter Biden scandal. Mister Trump will get blamed for the pandemic. The new rule of muting the microphones will insure that he cannot ask Mister Biden any difficult or other questions that he did not rehearse. Yes, I would bet a bunch of money, that Mister Biden has been rehearsed on all the questions aimed at him. Why else would he have been hidden in his basement (or somewhere) for four days?
 
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 10-21-2020, 01:23 PM:
 
Or they are imbedding a micro-chip in his ear canal so he can be fed answers. Not out of the realm of possibility imv...
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 10-21-2020, 03:34 PM:
 
Norm:
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Yes, I would bet a bunch of money, that Mister Biden has been rehearsed on all the questions aimed at him.
I would bet a bunch of money also "that Mister Biden has been rehearsed on all the questions aimed at him".

Ed:

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Or they are imbedding a micro-chip in his ear canal so he can be fed answers. Not out of the realm of possibility imv...
Nah, I'll pass on this one.
 
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 10-21-2020, 03:55 PM:
 
Nah, I'll pass on this one.
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Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 10-21-2020, 08:49 PM:
 
I just find it really unusual that the former prez is out campaigning while he hides somewhere!

Most believe it's in his basement but I wonder if he's not actually at a sleep over at Kristen Welkers house! How else is he going to get an opportunity to know the answers to the questions before they are asked tomorrow night?
 
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 10-23-2020, 09:07 PM:
 
My favorite of the 3 debates was the one they didn’t have.

Compared to the other two, I thought that one was very informative.

[ 10-23-2020, 09:08 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 10-23-2020, 11:14 PM:
 
If I haven't already said it here, on TCD, I was pleasantly surprised by the lady from MSNBC. She was still a little biased, but she did a Hell of a lot better job than Chris Wallace. Chris may thing he is his dad Mike reincarnate, but he isn't even close.
 
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 10-24-2020, 06:02 AM:
 
I thought this debate was very informative - Biden was pinned down on his oil stance and his answer gave all the oil and coal producing states especially WVA to the President!!
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 10-24-2020, 06:09 AM:
 
Ed:
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I thought this debate was very informative - Biden was pinned down on his oil stance and his answer gave all the oil and coal producing states especially WVA to the President!!

It didn't give Trump any state that he didn't already have, or should have. BTW, ask WVA how the coal business has been doing over the last 4 years.
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 10-24-2020, 07:24 AM:
 
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Originally posted by MountainMafia:
[QUOTE] BTW, ask WVA how the coal business has been doing over the last 4 years.

Here's the thing: I suspect the reason for the drop off in coal mining is almost 100% because of switching coal fired electricity to natural gas fired. I don't remember the name of the power plant near here at Drakesoro, but it has 4 generators. Two of them were switched to gas several years ago and the other two are in the process. Cheaper and cleaner. Nobody in their right mind can blame that on Mister Trump. It is pure economics.
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 10-24-2020, 07:45 AM:
 
Norm:
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Here's the thing: I suspect the reason for the drop off in coal mining is almost 100% because of switching coal fired electricity to natural gas fired. I don't remember the name of the power plant near here at Drakesoro, but it has 4 generators. Two of them were switched to gas several years ago and the other two are in the process. Cheaper and cleaner. Nobody in their right mind can blame that on Mister Trump. It is pure economics.
All that is true, Norm, but it was also true in 2016 when Trump promised to bring back coal...it ain't gonna happen. Coal is a dying industry and has been for years. It's the dirtiest fuel on the planet and expensive to mine, especially deep shaft mines where the highest quality coal is located.

Without the use of high-dollar scrubbers to eliminated the sulfur (acid rain) coal-fired power plants can't meet EPA standards. That's why high quality coal (low sulfur content) is so desired, but it's expensive.
 
Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 10-24-2020, 11:16 AM:
 
MM,
What you just posted is true. I am sad it is true because my wife inherited a very large amount of mineral rights in Martin County, Kentucky, which is not worth much of anything now.
 
Posted by Tiptree (Member # 844) on 10-24-2020, 11:56 AM:
 
Coal, like oil, has other uses in the chemical industries. Plastics are basically long chain hydrocarbons, like that found in coal and oil, reformed and 'stretched' into a shape that makes them useful. Many products are derivatives of fossil fuels. There will always be a need for coal, even if it is severely curtailed.

But WVA was going to Trump anyway. But Pennsylvania, Biden's original home state, may just have swung to Trump. Most of the other states where fracking for natural gas were likely Trump states anyway. So, Biden's 'revelation' (who didn't know this already?) may have cost him one huge swing state. But it may have opened some eyes of borderline voters in other swing states as well.
 
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 10-24-2020, 12:09 PM:
 
When I said WVA I meant Pa. Old age got me!

In any event, Biden gave Trump every state that has anything to do with oil/coal. Good debate for him!

Just thinking, how about "pipeline" states?

[ 10-24-2020, 12:13 PM: Message edited by: ukcatfannfl ]
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 10-25-2020, 06:52 PM:
 
THe power plant where I work has spent over a Billion Dollars, with a "B" on our plant since '90. Our first unit was scrubbed in '93 the last one was scrubbed in '15.

Bring on the coal! We keep the light on for Kroger-Commonwealth Stadium and Rupp Arena!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 10-25-2020, 06:57 PM:
 
Since I started at our plant we've scrubbed units to remove SO2, along with many other chemicals that are a residue from burning fossil fuels.

We've begun capping our (retired) ash ponds returning them to their natural habitat covering them with grass and trees.

We've now built a water treatment plant on our site that will take the water used to push ashes to the dewatering plant to the current landfill storage that we are using, the water is then pushed through a high filter system and the water is then available for recycle!
 


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