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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-01-2020, 11:18 AM:
The left at work turn this country into a socialist regime.
The group called Minnesota Freedom Fund is opposed to arrestees being forced to pay cash bail so they aren’t stuck in jail until trial. The group’s website reads:
SUPPORT BLACK YOUTH LED MOVEMENTS RIGHT NOW #GeorgeFloyd
We are in awe of the support coming through right now.
We are working with National Lawyers Guild and Legal Rights Center to help bails that are set.
Links: Black Visions Collective Reclaim the Block Northstar Health Collective
Love now, peace later.
So that’s what destroying your city is…Love.
Here’s the group’s position on cash bail and it appears Biden’s staffers donating to the group.
There is nothing “normal” about cash bail – the United States and the Philippines are the only two countries in the world where someone has to put up cash to avoid being imprisoned before their trial.
We stand against cash bail as unjust and identify wealth-based discrimination as a vehicle for the criminal justice system to target populations for structural violence.
People of color and immigrants face higher rates of arrest, harsher sentencing, and disparities in the setting of bail compared to white citizens.
Biden’s campaign has refused to answer any questions about which staffers are donating to the group. Also, his campaign has also announced that Joe Biden no longer believes in cash bail comparing it to “modern day debtors prison.”
President Trump’s re-election campaign is very concerned that Biden’s team is financially supporting chaos and the destruction of property. Reuters reported:
President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign on Saturday said it was “disturbing” that Biden’s team “would financially support the mayhem that is hurting innocent people and destroying what good people spent their lives building,” in an email about the Reuters story that called for Biden to condemn the riots.
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Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-01-2020, 11:52 PM:
Biden and the rest of the are freaking idiots !!!
Yeah let's bail out people that destroy other peoples hard earn businesses … another part of the welfare state the libs run !!! Hand out free money … only it ain't free it was paid by you and me !!!
MEL
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-02-2020, 07:33 AM:
Here is what Antifa is all about and the democrats support this type of activity:
Antifa (United States)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Antifa movement
The antifa (/ænˈtiːfə, ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement in the United States is a militant, predominantly left-wing, anti-fascist political activist movement[7][12] that comprises autonomous activist groups that aim to achieve their political objectives through the use of direct action rather than through policy reform.[13][14][15] Activists engage in varied protest tactics, including digital activism, property damage and physical violence, and harassment against those whom they identify as fascist, racist, or on the far-right.[23]
Individuals involved in the movement tend to hold anti-authoritarian and anti-capitalist views[24] and subscribe to a range of left-wing ideologies such as anarchism, communism, Marxism, social democracy and socialism.[25][33] Both the name antifa and the logo with two flags representing anarchism and communism are derived from the German Antifa movement.[34]
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Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 06-02-2020, 08:51 AM:
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/biden-staff-minneapolis-bail-donations
This is the link from FOX news reporting this. I see nothing about Antifa in this article or several others I looked at.
I did see this on Facebook but other than that I’m curious as to where this information came from about Antifa?
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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-02-2020, 09:01 AM:
New re Antifa was reported this AM by Lara Logan on fox news and further info ref this subject was in the NY times. Further, Antifa has been involved in ALL the past riots, looting, etc to create civil unrest and pit police against demonstrations.
I never said that this Antifa info was in my original post - this is additional info as to whom Biden and many others are behind, especially the Hollywood crowd ..
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 06-02-2020, 09:11 AM:
quote:
Topic: Biden’s Team Is Donating Money To Antifa Rioters
I saw “ANTIFA” in the topic heading and assumed that you were talking about Biden’s staff donating to that organization. I can not find anywhere where there is any truth in that. Maybe I didn’t look enough.
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-02-2020, 09:29 AM:
That's a true statement since Antifa is organizing and supporting the riots and destruction and the "cash bail" movement gets them out of jail and back on the streets.
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-02-2020, 09:23 PM:
Right-wing extremists were responsible for 49 (or 98%) of the 50 domestic extremist-related killings in 2018, with white supremacists alone accounting for 39 (or 78%) of those murders.
Finally, it should be noted that we report no killings in 2018 related to left-wing extremism,
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Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 06-03-2020, 06:38 AM:
I believe Antifa is a left wing extremist organization that support violence to further their cause. I also believe most Democrats and liberals do not support them. I have several friends and family that are of the liberal bent and they all abhor their methods.
Suggesting all Democrats are ANTIFA supporters is like suggesting all Republicans are KKK supporters IMO.
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-03-2020, 09:03 AM:
Spot on, hc.
But, you know what, if not for the murder of an innocent man at the hands of the police, which we haven't mentioned, we wouldn't be having this discussion about left and right extremists.
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-03-2020, 03:28 PM:
"Suggesting all Democrats are ANTIFA supporters is like suggesting all Republicans are KKK supporters IMO."
no one did that BUT the poor democrats are going to have a hell of a decision on election day as THEIR party is now a FAR LEFT organization. A vote democratic is a vote to give the country away!
1. vote dem as always (sleepy joe at the helm - give everything to china - allow anyone who wants to come to this country, illegally - finance the "green act" -Make AOC the energy czar- more social give away programs.
2. vote trump - who dems hate but many many admit he does get the job done and will not give the store away.
3. take the cowards way out and - don't vote.
What a dilemma the dems are in!!
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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-03-2020, 03:58 PM:
Dream on, Ed. The Republicans and Trump will lose in a landslide...I have no doubt whatsoever...none!
But, of course, they will claim "rigged election" and refuse to concede, which will lead to another crises...and then another, and then another...and on and on and f**king on!
It's never ending with this madman in the WH!
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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-03-2020, 04:19 PM:
So MM u are good in having Biden do what I said they would do? illegals, green deal - welfare more - china with Biden at the helm - guess u are
BTW only election rigged was Hilary's (illegal spying - fake dossier etc etc) and u saw what happened with that. Yes, she lost in a "landslide".
The American people will not put with the socialist's agenda that a Biden admin will bring so
I repeat what you said " dream on"!
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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-03-2020, 04:30 PM:
Ed:
quote:
So MM u are good in having Biden do what I said they would do?
With all due respect, Ed, who are you?
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-03-2020, 05:38 PM:
Don't know ukc personally but he seems to be a pretty smart and conservative guy (oops can I say a gender term or do I have to say "person" ???).
MEL
PS... by the way you forgot to mention the abortion issue as well as the 75,000 genders we have now. I think it is absolutely hilarious that the libs use a word they don't like and that is "the first "Female" VP or President" ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
LMAO
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-03-2020, 06:08 PM:
Whatever Mel, the so called "Christians" are willing to forgive Trump for anything, regardless of the "sin" as long as he opposes abortion.
The far right-wing, evangelical Christians are not the followers of Jesus, but the followers of Trump, the false prophet, the very thing the bible has warned against...I think Trump is the most evil AND corrupt person that has ever set foot in the WH... he don't give a **** about about nothing but Trump.
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-03-2020, 06:51 PM:
OMG … now he is the anti Christ and the false prophet !!! I am amazed how you dems and libs will go to any extreme to put President Trump down.
And I as Christian it is my duty by my Lord Jesus Christ to forgive (sometimes I don't do a very good job of it though) he will sort it all out in the end and the baby killers will be judged and if President Trump is as bad as you say so will he as well and you and me !!!
Most corrupt people to ever step foot in the White House have to be Bill and Hillary (go all the way back to their days in Arkansas or better yet Bill's days on The Island with Jeffery Epstein) now that is as evil and corrupt as it comes.
Yes I know President Trump knew Epstein but no where is there any proof he ever went to Epstein's Island like Bill did at least 4 times. Even though he denies ever being there, the flight manifests, pictures and witnesses say different.
I am going to read the book "Creature from Jekyll Island" … they say it is a must read. About the Federal Reserve and all the corrupt politian's and others. Talks about the no holds barred bail outs under Bush and Obama. They say you will never trust a Politian or banker ever again which I don't trust many as it is now !!!
If President Trump was involved with the things Epstein was doing to minors and not just with him at social gatherings then he and all the others "WILL" burn in hell !!! So far I have not found any proof that President Trump participated in anything Epstein did except socialize with him. Not saying he didn't but no one has come forward as a witness or no manifests with his name on them like there is for Bill.
MEL
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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-03-2020, 11:22 PM:
"With all due respect, Ed, who are you?"
Lets see I am someone who can take the good with the bad. trump is not smooth not a politician but who can get something done as the U.S. has seen during his term.
I have no idea who you are except a Dem and you dems have a tough choice to make (maybe not u) as your hate for trump could never allow that.
Your question to me is a question that the left would always raise when they have nothing else, My analogy of a Biden administration is one that is generated every day by him and by his cohorts the democrat's.
I did not say anything about aborted babies even though the democrats platform is just that and of course the AOC comments was said by him and open borders is what he stands by and more welfare is what he stands for. What part of that don't you understand? You and lots more would take that agenda over what trump could/as done caused by ur hate as you have said on many many times.
Sir: with all due respect just who in the hell are you?
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-03-2020, 11:40 PM:
I’m a nobody, Ed...just like everybody else not named Trump.
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-04-2020, 12:26 AM:
MM … that's your reply ?!?!? LMAO
MEL
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 12:53 AM:
You got a better one?
Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 06-04-2020, 01:01 AM:
M.M.
("Christians" are willing to forgive Trump for anything. evangelical Christians are not the followers of Jesus, but the followers of Trump)
I am a Christian and a follower of Jesus. I am not willing to forgive Trump or anyone who commits sin unless they admit to the sin and ask for forgiveness.
I think this Democrat vs Republican argument on this board has gotten out of hand.
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 01:07 AM:
Dr. Clyde:
quote:
I am not willing to forgive Trump or anyone who commits sin unless they admit to the sin and ask for forgiveness.
When has Trump ever ask for forgiveness?
Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 06-04-2020, 01:13 AM:
M.M.
Maybe I should not have replied to this conversation because I have not been watching the news lately. I do not know what Trump did or didn't do, but I just responded to your negative post toward Christians.
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 01:22 AM:
Not all "Christians" are Christians, Dr. Clyde. My comments were not intended to be all inclusive.
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-04-2020, 07:49 AM:
"’m a nobody, Ed.."
evasive is one trait some have when questions are answered with a response that some don't like! I gave an analogy as to what you asked me and this is your further reply! wow
The hate of trump has clouded a lot of peoples judgemente imv and a lot of the hate is stroked by the fake media.
For example we are now learing that the issue of using chloroquine with another med as a preventive method will not kill you as the Dr interviewed on CNN and then driven home by CNN and other fake news was done by a quack dr who owns a shell company (3 employees) and was paid to say that. Don't ask me exactly where I got it but believe it was on fox news yesterday ( Laura Ingram I believe) and confirmed by other drs..The larger point of this is that CNN does not confirm this theory but just puts it out there for scare tactics and especially to make trump look bad. It worked as even you have mentioned it in your posts..
In addition, there is a video on the internet showing one man confirming he is getting paid by George Soros (checks signed by him) to go to riots and he gets paid more money the more people he brings. The paid left wing agitators position bricks in cities so they are available to use doing riots. They have signs made up, they scan police broadcasts so they can block any police response if a fire breaks out. These are all methods used by the left wing radicals to overthrow a duly elected govt. And my friend, guess what lots of the dems leaders support this type of behavior and point all blame on trump!
I have yet to see a MAGA hat in the crowd - have you?
In addition, I am a person who supports trump, condones his outrageous statements sometime, but recognize he is in it for the good of the American citizen regardless of their color. Thank god for someone like him because if Biden wins in Nov you will see some of what I stated in my above statement and you said "Biden will win in a landslide" so can only believe you support open borders, more welfare, AOC as an energy czar to implement the "new green deal" and many other far left proposals. And that Sir: is how I define "who you are"! (that doesn't however make you a bad person just one with extreme views}
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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 08:50 AM:
Ed:
quote:
I have yet to see a MAGA hat in the crowd - have you?
No I ain't...ain't seen no confederate flags, swastikas or any other symbols of "very fine people" either.
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-04-2020, 09:07 AM:
Your silence on issues other than hate filled rhetoric answers is so telling! thank you
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 06-04-2020, 10:24 AM:
quote:
Originally posted by MountainMafia:
No I ain't...ain't seen no confederate flags, swastikas or any other symbols of "very fine people" either.[/QUOTE]
Here is his EXACT quote: "you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." If you leave the "You also have" off, it is completely out of context. Do you doubt that there were "very fine people" on both sides? I don't. (Please don't answer with a question, as is your habit.)
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 11:47 AM:
I don’t consider anyone as “very fine people” if they promote or engage in violent and deadly acts regardless if it comes from the extreme left or from the extreme right...or the police.
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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-04-2020, 12:11 PM:
"I don’t consider anyone as “very fine people” if they promote or engage in violent and deadly acts regardless if it comes from the extreme left or from the extreme right...or the police."
Most acts of violence come from the extreme LEFT. A cpl recent acts came from the extreme right (KKK) which started peacefully and ended up violent because of people who came from the extreme LEFT whos JOB is to stir up a demonstration and transform it into a violent event.
Surely you are not lumping ALL police into the current rioting and looting going on now caused by 4 people and taking over by the extreme left. There are many fine people employed as police. Always in a group there are a few bad apples but I take offense to anyone lumping police into the far left movement..
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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 12:30 PM:
Of course not, Ed. My next door neighbor is a cop (and ex Seal). He is one fine man. I know other officers as well that I greatly respect.
The problem is the few “bad apples” in every department that are protected and enabled by the “blue wall of silence”, just like they attempted to do with the George Floyd murder by claiming he resisted arrest.
The overly-aggressive training and tactics coupled with lack of accountability is the problem, not the cops themselves.
I take offense with being “lumped” as well...I know how you feel.
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Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 06-04-2020, 12:47 PM:
M.M.
This is my follow-up statement about Christians.
I agree with you that some people call themselves Christian and they are not.
I believe the first time that word was used in the Bible was in Acts 11 and that may have been a negative description.
I believe that the Bible teaches that a Christian has a certain lifestyle. A person who follows the teaching of Jesus (Mark 16:16) and his disciples (Acts 2:38) is saved, but still need to live according to the guidelines of the Bible.
A person who is a drunkard, liar, drug addict, thief, murderer,a sexually immoral person or who commit other sins may claim to be a Christian, but they do not fit the Bible example of a Christian.
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-04-2020, 12:51 PM:
"I take offense with being “lumped” as well...I know how you feel."
I was making a point MM and ty.
No one "lumped you" in particular, just the support of Joe Biden automatically puts you and every other democrat into a leading very left democratic party agenda. Things that most America s detest are part of his platform. He won't win because of this platform - even though this rioting will go on after poor Floyd is buried because of the political nature it has become.
The Democrats have used any and all failed methods to make up and pin something on trump. This will fail also but division in America will continue..
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 06-04-2020, 01:04 PM:
Further CNN promotes violence - Chris Cuomo said this on his tv program: 1st amendment means nothing to fake news:
CNN is liberal news they usually twist and manipulate everything Trump says to try and demonize him but you'd think that they would at the very least be against violence. Well turns out that's not the case as their top Host Chris Cuomo asked his audience where it says that a protest must be peaceful. So now CNN is openly promoting violence...
"Now too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens to take to the streets: persistent, poisonous inequities and injustice," Cuomo said. "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful. Because I can show you that outraged citizens are what made the country what she is and led to any major milestone. To be honest, this is not a tranquil time."
But Cuomo was not done there as he would later double down and say it's the police that have to keep the peace not the protesters.
"Now too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens to take to the streets: persistent, poisonous inequities and injustice," Cuomo said. "And please, show me where it says protesters are supposed to be polite and peaceful. Because I can show you that outraged citizens are what made the country what she is and led to any major milestone. To be honest, this is not a tranquil time."
But Cuomo was not done there as he would later double down and say it's the police that have to keep the peace not the protesters.
h, that's right, it's our 1st Amendment that says it must be a peaceful protest.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances," the First Amendment declares.
Where does Cuomo get off? He is inciting violence with this stance. How is this kind of behavior allowed on the air? He can say he agrees with the cause for the protests, but to just tell his liberal brethren they should be attacking the police, burning buildings down, or looting, this just goes too far. He should be forced to retract his statement. How many more people did he just radicalize with this broadcast?
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 01:08 PM:
It’s the hypocrites I was referring to Dr Clyde...the worst kind of sinner, IMO.
Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 06-04-2020, 04:44 PM:
M.M.
I do know some hypocrites.
A doctor asked me for a loan last year. He had the reputation and claimed to be a very religious person.
I did lend him $11,000. He moved to another state and changed his address and phone number and e-mail address. About two months ago, he mailed me a $1,000 check. He provided no contact info with the check
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 06-04-2020, 05:53 PM:
I would not do that for $11,000. I must be a sucker, but there is no way I would do anything that corrupt for ANY amount of money. I'd have a hard time living with that on my conscience. Besides that, my wife of almost 62 years, would have a sh*t hemorrhage!
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 06:16 PM:
Me neither, Norm. I believe a man’s word is his bond. If I tell you I will do something and end up not doing it I will tell you why, and it damn sure won’t be because I didn’t want to or didn’t try.
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Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 06-04-2020, 06:39 PM:
Many years ago my “best friend” bought a car from me. At least I signed the title over to him and he was going to write me a check the following week. He moved to Tennessee and I never saw or heard from him again.
Bastard probably became a Vols fan.
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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-04-2020, 07:47 PM:
My uncle owned a package liquor store that had an upstairs apartment that he rented out. There was a driveway leading to back for deliveries.
He let me stay there one summer when I was home from college...I loved it. Anyway, every Sunday after church a couple of “religious” and prominent business men would come by the back door for a 5th of liquor.
It wasn’t legal to sell on Sundays but considering who they were my uncle accommodated them. I served them every Sunday that Summer. They never stuck their nose anywhere near the store when it was open for fear of being seen.
Posted by clydeh (Member # 7) on 06-04-2020, 10:05 PM:
M.M.
They probably thought that God was blind.
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-04-2020, 11:25 PM:
What we all need to remember is "EVERY" man sins and in God's eye they are all the same.
MEL
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 06-05-2020, 06:36 AM:
I know I am, especially my potty mouth that I developed and fined tuned during my coal mining days, and have gotten the death stare from Mama many times.
I try to do right by other folks though, unless they do something that violates my trust in them. If that happens I'm done with them...period.
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 06-05-2020, 12:51 PM:
We all are MM … I do things I shouldn't but always try and ask for forgiveness.
Forgive and forget is my policy (doesn't always work but I try). It hurts me more to hold grudges than to just let it go but that is just me.
MEL
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