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Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-28-2020, 04:11 PM:
 
He said the other night "I am going to beat Joe Biden" !!! He also made a huge gaff when he said "If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black" !!! He has lost it !!! These are just a couple of the huge gaffs he makes almost every time he speaks.

MEL
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 05-28-2020, 05:00 PM:
 
There are still people that will be all in for him, because they would rather have the country go to hell in a handbasket than vote for Trump. I know this from personal experience, as two, maybe three of my own children are that way.
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-28-2020, 05:44 PM:
 
MEL:
quote:
These are just a couple of the huge gaffs he makes almost every time he speaks.
Biden's gaffes don't kill people...injecting disinfectant and taking hydroxychorloquine does.

Norm:

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There are still people that will be all in for him, because they would rather have the country go to hell in a handbasket than vote for Trump. I know this from personal experience, as two, maybe three of my own children are that way.

There are people who are all in for Trump if he burned this country to the ground, which he is close to doing...it would always be somebody else's fault...it always is.
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-28-2020, 06:21 PM:
 
MM … how do you get that he is burning it to the ground. The best economy in years, less joblessness … I don't get it (before covid19) !!!

Everything is his fault but hillary and obama get a pass and never did anything wrong.

MEL
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-28-2020, 06:34 PM:
 
MEL:
quote:
MM … how do you get that he is burning it to the ground. The best economy in years, less joblessness … I don't get it (before covid19) !!!

Everything is his fault but hillary and obama get a pass and never did anything wrong.

What does the economy look like today? He is still POTUS, right? Like I said...take credit, but never, ever accept fault.

What "pass" are you talking about?

[ 05-28-2020, 06:40 PM: Message edited by: MountainMafia ]
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-28-2020, 06:59 PM:
 
So the economy has nothing to do with covid19 and since he can't reopen states (that is the governor's right) that is his fault ??? I am so sure every dem president would have just flown through this damn mess with flying colors … oh no wait, our dem house wants us to give out even more money and extend the $600 a week to unemployed workers till January 31st !!! To hell with that … that would so build up our economy, thank goodness the Senate and President Trump said no way in hell !!!

Bengasi just for one !!!

MEL

[ 05-28-2020, 07:06 PM: Message edited by: MEL ]
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-28-2020, 07:13 PM:
 
MEL:
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So the economy has nothing to do with covid19
It has everything to do with covid...not that it happened, but how did you handle it.

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Bengasi just for one !!!
What was the outcome of that multi-million dollar, multi-committee, republican-led investigation? Help me out here, MEL.
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 05-28-2020, 08:29 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Old Norm:
There are still people that will be all in for him, because they would rather have the country go to hell in a handbasket than vote for Trump. I know this from personal experience, as two, maybe three of my own children are that way.

Just see the above posts, which prove my remarks beyond a reasonable doubt.
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-28-2020, 09:08 PM:
 
Spineless POS !!! Wow, I have not liked a lot of our past President's but never thought anyone of them were spineless and sure don't President Trump. If he was spineless he wouldn't have ever run for President because he already knew no matter what he did or didn't do it would never be what the libs wanted !!! He could say the sky is blue and they would burn down Rome trying to disprove it and say see it is black and gray !!!

I am so sure sleep joe and hands on joe would be doing a much better job (FROM HIS BASEMENT) !!! He even called out President Trump for going out on Memorial Day and then guess who went out the ON Memorial Day ?!?!? What a joke.

MEL

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Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-28-2020, 09:18 PM:
 
Did you go to church this last Sunday, Mel? without a mask? Don't worry, neither did your hero....he played golf!
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-28-2020, 09:52 PM:
 
LMAO MM … he played golf !!! Is he supposed to stay in the WH 24/7 ??? Damn, I bet you have stayed in your house since this all started and haven't even gone outside. I sure haven't … I go out almost every day !!! Gonna die sometime ... the Lord already knows when that will be so I ain't afraid. [Smile]

MEL

[ 05-28-2020, 11:29 PM: Message edited by: MEL ]
 
Posted by Tiptree (Member # 844) on 05-28-2020, 10:03 PM:
 
MM, you really want to have it both ways. But not here.

First, you exude palpable fear, supporting the almost 100% shut-down of our economy to suppress this virus. Along the way, you relentlessly blamed Trump for not doing enough.

Now, you express anger that the economy has been wrecked. And you blame Trump for wrecking it.

You have to pick one side or the other. You can't blame Trump for everything.
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 05-28-2020, 11:09 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tiptree:
You can't blame Trump for everything.

Oh yes he can!
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 08:23 AM:
 
Tip:
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First, you exude palpable fear, supporting the almost 100% shut-down of our economy to suppress this virus.
To suppress the virus was the whole point...that ain't happened. To this day test are not universally available, infections are still on the rise in many states, data is being manipulated and falsified, no more daily briefings from Trump's task force, etc.

We have lost over 40 million jobs, over 100,000 lives, spent trillions of dollars and we still don't have covid under control.

There are two ways to handle covid. Herd immunity, the Switzerland approach, or shut down, fix the problem, re-open. We've done neither. We're just bouncing back and forth between the two.

No national plan, no national direction, no national leadership!...None!

quote:
You can't blame Trump for everything.
What do you blame him for?
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 08:36 AM:
 
MEL:
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He even called out President Trump for going out on Memorial Day and then guess who went out the ON Memorial Day ?!?!? What a joke.
He called out Trump for not wearing a mask.

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I bet you have stayed in your house since this all started and haven't even gone outside.
I've been out several times...mainly because I don't a thousand people I can send out in my place.

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I go out almost every day
Do you wear a mask? keep your distance from other folks?

I know one thing, if you got within screaming distance of Trump you would.
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 09:11 AM:
 
MEL:
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Spineless POS !!!
I deleted my post on this. It was over the top and uncalled for.

I apologize to everyone.
 
Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 05-29-2020, 11:12 AM:
 
What do I blame him for? Not a damn thing concerning COVID19. What do you blame those democrat governors for, that sent infected people back to nursing homes, literally killing thousands of people, and then claiming they were following the president's guidelines? Never mind. Don't answer that. I don't even want to know.
 
Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 05-29-2020, 12:09 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by MountainMafia:
Don't worry, neither did your hero....he played golf!

I don't get this. Is the president not allowed to golf? He does own his own golf course for, after all.

I shot a 40 in my league last night after taking a double-bogey on the last hole. I didn't realize I only needed par for a 38 or I would've hit an iron off the tee. I think I need to pay more attention to my score from now on.
 
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 05-29-2020, 12:49 PM:
 
I only have one problem with Trump playing golf. When he was running for office, he ridiculed Obama for playing golf and said if he was elected he wouldn’t have time to golf. I guess he changed his mind as no other President Is even close to number of rounds play.

[ 05-29-2020, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 12:59 PM:
 
PC:
quote:
I don't get this. Is the president not allowed to golf? He does own his own golf course for, after all.
I'm not begrudging anybody for taking a day off...I know what it's like to work 7 days a week for weeks on end.

I just thought since he declared churches as "essential business" he would take the opportunity to attend services instead of playing golf for 2 days...or at least play after church...lots of people do.

But he did have this to say about Obama playing during Ebola in 2014 that killed 2 people in this country.

“There are times to play and times that you can’t play. It sends the wrong signal,” Trump declared.

“You know when you’re president you sorta say, like, ‘I’m gonna give it up for a couple of years and I’m really gonna focus on the job,’”

[ 05-29-2020, 01:08 PM: Message edited by: MountainMafia ]
 
Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 05-29-2020, 01:13 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by MountainMafia:
I just thought since he declared churches as "essential business" he would take the opportunity to attend services instead of playing golf for 2 days...or at least play after church...lots of people do.

I think that's where we're different, MM - I don't make assumptions. I think my career as a computer programmer has trained me to never assume anything. Kind of like I won't assume that Trump didn't go to church before or after golf. Or that he's a Catholic and went Saturday evening. Truth be told, I just don't really care what he does on his own time. It's not my business.
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-29-2020, 02:45 PM:
 
No MM … biden called the President out a day or two before Memorial Day because he going out in public then went out himself on Memorial Day (I am sure his peeps told him he needed to get out of his basement for a couple of minutes). lol

And no I don't wear a mask (our county has said you don't have to unless you want to). I only wear them in a store that has a policy that says I have to.

MEL
 
Posted by Tiptree (Member # 844) on 05-29-2020, 03:12 PM:
 
Wearing a mask when you are alone or with someone who you have already been exposed to (and they to you) is completely unnecessary.

The purpose of the mask is to suppress droplet spray when you cough, sneeze, or breath heavily, thus limiting other's exposure if YOU re infected.

But Trump is tested every day... he is not a carrier of the virus. Thus, wearing a mask is completely useless in his case.

[ 05-29-2020, 03:13 PM: Message edited by: Tiptree ]
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-29-2020, 03:46 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Tiptree:
Wearing a mask when you are alone or with someone who you have already been exposed to (and they to you) is completely unnecessary.

The purpose of the mask is to suppress droplet spray when you cough, sneeze, or breath heavily, thus limiting other's exposure if YOU re infected.

But Trump is tested every day... he is not a carrier of the virus. Thus, wearing a mask is completely useless in his case.

No Tip a mask isn't useless for President Trump to wear … it gives the dems and libs something else to ***** about him on !!! [Wink]

MEL

[ 05-29-2020, 03:47 PM: Message edited by: MEL ]
 
Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 05-29-2020, 04:03 PM:
 
I honestly think it would be a good thing if Trump would wear a mask in public appearances where it makes sense. Even if he doesn't need it, he could lead by example. After all, what would it hurt?

[ 05-29-2020, 04:04 PM: Message edited by: PaulCat ]
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 04:35 PM:
 
I don’t wear a mask in my home or out in my yard. I keep one in my car for use ANYTIME I get out of my car in public. I don’t trust anybody to be “clean”...can’t afford to.

Some people can’t even get tested once, let alone once a day. Plus, I don’t have the authority to make everybody around me to get tested and wear a mask like Trump has.

Why does an inexpensive, effective and. common sense thing as a mask become a controversy? They’re proven to prevent the spread of the virus.

Frontline workers (docs, nurses, emts, etc.) have a lower infection rate than the general public because of PPEs.

To me, it defies logic not to wear a mask in public, at least until we get a better handle on this thing.
 
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 05-29-2020, 04:39 PM:
 
quote:
But Trump is tested every day... he is not a carrier of the virus. Thus, wearing a mask is completely useless in his case.
Tip, I completely and unequivocally disagree. Why not lead by example for a change?

He is the president of the United States. His words matter but his actions speak volumes. His most ardent supporters will follow his actions. As the old saying goes “actions speak louder than words”.

I honestly believe he will not wear a mask for fear of messing up that precious hairdo.

[ 05-29-2020, 06:29 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
 
Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 05-29-2020, 04:47 PM:
 
I can't really mock the man's precious 'do - he's got more hair than me! [Smile]
 
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 05-29-2020, 05:15 PM:
 
Paul, my head looks like a cue ball and I’m pretty darn proud of it. Shows maturity.
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 05:41 PM:
 
hc:
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I honestly believe he will not wear a mask for fear of messing up that precious hairdo.
Or afraid he’ll smear that expensive, French-made orange makeup. [Smile]
 
Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 05-29-2020, 05:42 PM:
 
Then u have this

You may not know this but President Trump can be in two places at once, according to Tim O'Brien, he can. O'Brien shared side-by-side photos on Twitter showing the President playing golf in one and a photo of former vice president Joe Biden standing by at fallen veterans memorial. The text on his meme read, "Different approaches to Memorial Dal". O'Brien's meme gave the impression that the President spent Memorial Day playing golf- a complete and absolute lie.

According to FoxNews O'Brien is a former campaign aide for Mike Bloomberg and an opinion writer for Bloomberg. Just to give you an idea of O'Brein's possible motive, here.
The photo of Joe Biden was taken when Biden visited Delaware Memorial Bridge Veteran's Memorial Park. It was the former vice president’s first outing since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. He and wife Jill Biden, both wearing masks, laid a wreath at a memorial wall commemorating war veterans from Delaware and New Jersey.

Trump played gold over the weekend for the first time in three months and it's all the left-wing media can talk about. He did not, however, play gold on Monday. Trump spent Memorial Day honoring service members at Arlington National Cemetery in Baltimore where he gave a speech:
"Together, we will vanquish the virus, and America will rise from this crisis to new, and even greater heights," Trump said at Fort McHenry National Monument and Historic Shrine. “As our brave warriors have shown us from the nation’s earliest days – in America, we are the captains of our own fate.

[ 05-29-2020, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: ukcatfannfl ]
 
Posted by handycat (Member # 2323) on 05-29-2020, 06:19 PM:
 
I either deleted or edited a couple of my posts. At times I let my distaste of Trump gets the better of me. I apologize to anyone who might have read them before they were deleted or edited. I know many on here admire him and I am wrong to antagonize them.

[ 05-29-2020, 06:46 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
 
Posted by Tiptree (Member # 844) on 05-29-2020, 06:28 PM:
 
MM,

A mask does NOT protect the wearer of the mask... it does absolutely nothing to filter out viruses.

The mask only serves to limit the speed of most of the small droplets that a person spews out when they cough, or sneeze, or even breathe heavily. That limits the immediate are where the droplets will fall. Note that those droplets may stay airborne for a long, long time, but the larger ones will fall to the ground rather quickly.

So, to reiterate, if you wear a mask, it does NOT protect you... it protects others from you.
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 06:52 PM:
 
That’s what they say Tip...for now. Who knows what they will say tomorrow. Things seem to change daily with this virus. Anyway, they make me feel safer about going out regardless.

Nothing wrong with protecting others if nothing else...if only everyone else would do the same we’d all be less vulnerable.

Maybe they should be mandatory like seatbelts...at least temporarily.
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-29-2020, 07:01 PM:
 
Another way of controlling us !!!
The politians found a way for us to give up our right of freedoms but got most of us to agree to it. Spread fear and people will listen to just about anything you tell them to do.

MEL
 
Posted by MountainMafia (Member # 2066) on 05-29-2020, 08:58 PM:
 
MEL:
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Another way of controlling us !!!
There are many, many laws on the books that “control” us...thank goodness!
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-30-2020, 12:05 AM:
 
Yep but thank goodness we still have rights and we gave some of them away because of fear mongering by the media !!!

MEL
 
Posted by rlt4uk (Member # 3194) on 05-31-2020, 12:56 AM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by MountainMafia:
MEL:
quote:
These are just a couple of the huge gaffs he makes almost every time he speaks.
Biden's gaffes don't kill people...injecting disinfectant and taking hydroxychorloquine does.
The only people burning this country down are the liberal Democrats.
Norm:
The only people burning the country down is the liberal Democrats.

quote:
There are still people that will be all in for him, because they would rather have the country go to hell in a handbasket than vote for Trump. I know this from personal experience, as two, maybe three of my own children are that way.

There are people who are all in for Trump if he burned this country to the ground, which he is close to doing...it would always be somebody else's fault...it always is.



[ 05-31-2020, 12:57 AM: Message edited by: rlt4uk ]
 
Posted by rlt4uk (Member # 3194) on 05-31-2020, 12:59 AM:
 
I tried to respond to MM, but it didn't post. I said that the only people burning the country down is the liberal Democrats.
 
Posted by MEL (Member # 141) on 05-31-2020, 10:43 AM:
 
So true rlt !!!

MEL
 


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