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Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-28-2015, 04:19 AM:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/forde-minutes--what-s-wrong-with-college-basketball-and-how-to-fix-it-082255594-ncaab.html

Posted by Tiptree (Member # 844) on 01-28-2015, 06:17 AM:

Pat Forde is correct -- the game has become less enjoyable to watch. But I place the blame primarily on the referees. They are fully in control of how much bumping, slapping, pushing, and hacking is going on. Coaches (and players) will adapt to what is allowed.

But, Forde being Forde, he just can't help but to sully Kentucky's season. He does make brief mention of Virginia's agonizingly slow pace, but the focus of the article is those big, brutish Wildcats. [Roll Eyes]

Good to hear from you, Pat. Now go back to your little sad corner of the world and write some more hate articles.

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-28-2015, 06:46 AM:

So far this season, I've seen absolutely nothing wrong with NCAA B-ball. We're undefeated! [Wink]

Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 01-28-2015, 09:40 AM:

For once I agree with Ford. I tried watching Bama and Florida last night, ugly game, unworthy of watching. Final score was 52 to 50, hardly worthy of being on TV. Alabama are really a very bad team, I would think Grant might be in his last year as their coach. They were a lot more competitive when they had Mark Gottfried.

[ 01-28-2015, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: SCWC ]

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 01-28-2015, 10:16 AM:

I haven't read the article yet, but I think college basketball has been going down the tubes for about a decade now. I think a lot of it has to do with AAU basketball and kids not knowing the fundamentals of the game. You also don't have a lot of upper skilled Juniors and Seniors because they have all left for the NBA, and to many teams have become so physical on defense that is stalls play.

They have tried to improve the flow of the game, but I think they let it go so long that the officials possibly can't get it fixed now. An official could call three or four fouls on nearly every possession down the court right now.

I really stopped watching the college game, other than UK, about 5 years ago and I used to watch 20 to 30 games a week probably. Now I find the NBA so much more enjoyable. It took the NBA nearly two decades to clean up and overcome the Detroit Pistons "Bad Boy" and New York Knicks "football on the basketball court" type of play in the NBA. The NBA today reminds me of the NBA in the early 80's when you had the Celtics, Lakers, Hawks, and 76ers running the break and scoring, while at the same time still playing defense with their feet and not their hands.

The NBA has a great product right now in my opinion.

Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 01-28-2015, 10:32 AM:

Trey, I am just the opposite, watch at least thirty college games or parts of them per week but never watch an NBA game. I agree, college basketball right now is a damaged product and I find myself enjoying it less and less with the exception of our Cats. There are really some bad teams in college basketball this year and only a few quality good ones. I have never really been much of a fan of professional sports, like amateur sports and watch no professional sports on tv other than golf. Same way with football, watch the college version but not the NFL. Used to be a Washington Redskin season ticket holder for some forty years but after the Joe Gibbs era, lost interest in their game too.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 01-28-2015, 11:55 AM:

SCWC,

I wish I still liked to watch the college game like I use to. I knew a lot more about other teams, but like you said it is a damaged product. I did put on the Florida and Bama game for about 5 minutes last night and turned it off.

I actually watched UK vs. Michigan last year in the Regional Final since I have it on DVR. That was a great college basketball game. Actually UK played 4 great college games in a row last year (Wichita State, Louisville, Michigan, and Wisconsin) in the tournament.

[ 01-28-2015, 11:56 AM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]

Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-28-2015, 12:06 PM:

THE REASON MID MAJOR TEAMS ARE BETTER IS BECAUSE THEIR PLAYERS ARE STAYING 4 YEARS, AND PLAY TOGETHER AND GET BETTER, YOU TAKE WESTERN KY I THINK THEY HAVE WON 11 GAMES IN A ROW NOW.

Posted by CatFanInYankeeville (Member # 2025) on 01-28-2015, 02:19 PM:

Can't stand the NBA. The lack of effort on defense and the way the 'stars' get every single call to go their way is sickening.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-28-2015, 02:44 PM:

I like watching both college and the pro's. I do think watching the pro's is fascinating because they are the best of the best but hate to see how the games are called. The college game is fun to watch too as you can see teams and players get better by the game.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 01-28-2015, 03:55 PM:

I agree that the stars get more calls in the NBA, but I would disagree about the defense being played. I think they play great defense in the NBA, but sometimes the skill level of the offensive players is just ridiculous and they make tough shots.

When Klay Thompson put up his 37 points in the 3rd quarter against the Kings last week I would say he was very well defended on 11 of his 13 shot attempts and makes. I see that a lot watching the NBA. Just unbelievable talent and skill in the league.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-28-2015, 06:14 PM:

I enjoy the passing even more than the shooting it's amazing to see how some of the better point guards can thread a needle to get the ball to the shooter in at the right time and in the right place.