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Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-24-2015, 02:15 PM:
 
I LOVE OUR GUARDS, IT TAKES GREAT GUARDS TO WIN TITLE AND WE HAVE THEM.
 
Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 01-24-2015, 02:33 PM:
 
We can give any team I have seen match up problems at the guard spots. WE now need to get our inside players rebounding and scoring better to keep the pressure off our guards.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-24-2015, 03:13 PM:
 
OUr guards have been doing most of the scoring for us as of late! They had 35 of our 58 points today!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-24-2015, 03:27 PM:
 
Aaron rebounded the ball very well today!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-24-2015, 03:39 PM:
 
Our guards had 9 of our 28 rebounds today! They were active on both ends of the floor!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-24-2015, 03:52 PM:
 
Cal went with a 3 guard line up for a good portion of the game today!
 
Posted by AshTuckyUKfan (Member # 3065) on 01-24-2015, 05:47 PM:
 
Is it just me does Cal feel it necessary to defend Andrew Harrison? Almost as though the hype Ulis has created recently has caused a rift in his system. Every time Cal is asked about how well Ulis or Booker has been doing he says "so has Andrew". Not to take anything away from Ulis I dont think but to remind the media that Andrew is our #1 pg.
 
Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 01-24-2015, 06:13 PM:
 
I have noticed that too Ashtuckfan. I personally do not see Andrew having the talent to play in the NBA. I feel Aaron is the better of the twins. I hope for his sake he does get to the NBA but the way he is playing, which is not that bad but not that good will not get him too many NBA looks. They are very good college guards but after watching Treyball's video of the NBA player score 37 points in one quarter, tough to put any of our players in that category except maybe Booker.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-24-2015, 08:34 PM:
 
It's a very tough situation and it isn't going to be a happy ending for someone. Their is only so many minutes at the point and Cal is going to have to make the decision on who deserves the minutes. I guess this is why he makes the big bucks.
 
Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-24-2015, 09:07 PM:
 
WELL THERE IS NO DOUBT, ULIS IS THE BETTER POINT GUARD, ANDREW IS BETTER SUITED FOR A TWO OR 3 SPOT, ULIS AND BOOKER ARE AS GOOD AS ANY COMBINATION BACKCOURT IN THE COUNTRY IMO.
 
Posted by AshTuckyUKfan (Member # 3065) on 01-24-2015, 10:08 PM:
 
Ulis is the better college pg no doubt, but his height(or lack there of) will likely keep him at UK longer than we think.
 
Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-24-2015, 10:17 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by AshTuckyUKfan:
Ulis is the better college pg no doubt, but his height(or lack there of) will likely keep him at UK longer than we think.

EXACTLY ASHTUCKY, AND I WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE HIM, HE IS A REAL POINT GUARD, AND HE KNOWS THAT IS WHAT HE IS, LOVES TO MAKE OTHERS BETTER. BACK OFF THE LITTLE GUY AND HE WILL MAKE U PAY, MUCH LIKE RONNIE LYONS DID BACK IN THE DAY.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 12:02 AM:
 
With the twins size, it's also the reason why Cal can go to a 3 guard line up and not lose hardly anything on the defensive end of the floor. Naturally with Ulis, Booker and one of the twins on the floor at the same time. You have more ball handlers and good shooters all at the same time!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 12:05 AM:
 
There will be times when we will need 3 ball handlers and with this team we have the players to do it.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 12:06 AM:
 
We have the shooters too so we can match up with most any team.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 12:07 AM:
 
The great thing is we also have bigs that can be inter-changed as well.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 12:27 AM:
 
WIth the amount of talent this team puts on the floor it isn't very often that we should/would face a matchup problem!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 12:38 AM:
 
On the other hand, we crate many matchup problems for our opponents!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 12:36 PM:
 
We have 12 more conference games left and 6 games at Rupp and 6 games on the road so there is a lot more basketball left to be played.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 12:40 PM:
 
Looking at the schedule LSU at their place "looks" to be the one that will be the toughest. It seems though just when you think your doing well someone who you don't expect comes up and surprises you.
 
Posted by AshTuckyUKfan (Member # 3065) on 01-25-2015, 12:43 PM:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Green-Bean:
quote:
Originally posted by AshTuckyUKfan:
Ulis is the better college pg no doubt, but his height(or lack there of) will likely keep him at UK longer than we think.

EXACTLY ASHTUCKY, AND I WILL BE GLAD TO HAVE HIM, HE IS A REAL POINT GUARD, AND HE KNOWS THAT IS WHAT HE IS, LOVES TO MAKE OTHERS BETTER. BACK OFF THE LITTLE GUY AND HE WILL MAKE U PAY, MUCH LIKE RONNIE LYONS DID BACK IN THE DAY.
A PG has to be extra special is he is only 5'9", the NBA is loaded with special PG's with height as well...it would not surprise me if Ulis is a 4 yr player, which would be amazing for us UK fans.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 02:16 PM:
 
I agree, Ash. It'd going to take some work to convince scouts that Tyler, at his size can handle being a point guard at the NBA level!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-25-2015, 02:28 PM:
 
If he can handle the best college competition he sure has a good shot of playing in the NBA. Let's see how he does the rest of the year and in tournament play.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 03:15 PM:
 
He needs to continue to work on his tear drop runner. As I fear his size will prevent him from getting more two point opportunities otherwise!
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 06:33 PM:
 
Ulis' three point shot also will help his draftability !
 
Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 01-25-2015, 07:55 PM:
 
I think Ulis is a tremendous college PG, but his chances of ever playing in the NBA are slim at his size. Here is a the list of players in the history of the NBA who were 5'9" or smaller and played more than 82 games (a NBA season) in their career. There are two currently active players: Nate Robinson and Isiah Thomas.

Calvin Murphy - 1,002 games last played in 1983
Mugsy Bogues - 889 games last played in 2001
Spud Webb - 814 games last played in 1998
Earl Boykins - 652 games last played in 2012
Nate Robinson - 574 games played to date
Charlie Chriss - 418 games last played in 1985
Greg Grant - 274 games last played in 1996
Isiah Thomas - 216 games played to date
Keith Jennings - 164 games last played in 1995
Angelo Musi - 161 games last played in 1949
Ralph O'Brian - 119 games last played in 1953
Don Marin - 92 games last played in 1952

In addition to these 12 there have been another 12 who played anywhere from 4 games to 65 games. Most of them played in the 1940's.

I hope he makes it in the NBA, but if he doesn't he can have a great professional career over seas. That is where a lot of under size players go and do well: Melvin Watson, Devin Downey, and Tyus Edney come to mind.

[ 01-26-2015, 02:31 PM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-25-2015, 09:27 PM:
 
Those odds aren't in his favor are they? One things for sure, YOU CAN'T TEACH SIZE!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-26-2015, 08:57 AM:
 
The odds are not in his favor for sure but it has been done before as in Trey's list. If he signs a contract he will have a good start in life as today's pay scale is lucrative.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-26-2015, 08:58 AM:
 
MH, you are right you can't teach size. [Wink]
 
Posted by Green-Bean (Member # 13551) on 01-26-2015, 09:03 AM:
 
HES NOT 5FT 9 IMO, ABOUT 5FT7. IMO
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-26-2015, 12:11 PM:
 
You could right GB but it's hard to tell and depends on how they measure the players. You would think it would be without shoes but you never know. I would bet too that it's closer to 5'7".
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-27-2015, 06:18 AM:
 
Either way he is quite small for the NBA!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2015, 09:23 PM:
 
Ulis will have his work cut out for him to even get a chance to play in the NBA.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-27-2015, 09:29 PM:
 
Then Darn IT... [Wink] ...I guess we'll have to keep him for three more years!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2015, 10:04 PM:
 
That wouldn't be bad for us or Ulis. It's a win win deal.
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2015, 10:05 PM:
 
We would win a ton of games with Ulis at the point.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-27-2015, 10:09 PM:
 
I believe we will win a bunch a games too!
 
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 01-27-2015, 11:12 PM:
 
We will always win games like we always have and we will do it with or with out Ulis. Hopefully Ulis will get a NBA contract but if he doesn't get one this year he will get another chance next year. His size really hurts him but his heart and desire are huge.
 
Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 01-28-2015, 06:39 AM:
 
I'd be surprised to see Ulis get offered a look before at least after his junior year. He's still got a lot of growing to do!
 


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