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Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 04-14-2014, 01:05 PM:

Question 1- Since Cal's tweak came out and had to do with assists can you name the only 2 Kentucky point guards in the 20th century that had a season with better than a assist to t/o ratio of 2 to 1?

Question 2- Who has been Cal's top 2 point guards with the best assist to t/o ratios?

Question 3- Who has been Cal's point guards with the worst assist t/o ratio's?

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 04-14-2014, 01:24 PM:

Question 2: I would answer Teague and probably Harrow since he never tried a "penetrating pass" at UK. He just always passed it around the perimeter. Drove me crazy.

Question 3: Brandon Knight and Andrew Harrison. I would say because neither were protoypical point guards.

Don't know on Question 1.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 04-14-2014, 01:46 PM:

Trey, good job on both 2 and 3 but if you think about it question 1 really isn't that hard.

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 04-14-2014, 01:53 PM:

For question 1, I'll say Epps and Turner.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 04-14-2014, 02:16 PM:

Epps was a great answer and would have been right but he played in the 94-97 seasons.

Wayne Turner was a good one too but played in the 96-99 seasons and never had a season where he had a t/o ratio of 2-1.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 04-14-2014, 02:21 PM:

cmd,

Ok with your "hint" I think I may have one of them.

Rajon Rondo! LOL.

[ 04-14-2014, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 04-14-2014, 02:43 PM:

cmd,

Based on your answer to PC I assume you really ment to say the 21st Century and not the 20th Century because Epps played in the 20th century. That is why I was shocked only two PG's would have qualified because I was sure guys like Epps/Macy/Harden/Davender would have made that list, but thought maybe not and I would have no idea on PG's who played prior to 1978 (first UK team that I can vividly remember)

So lets go season by season:

2014 - Harrison - No
2013 - Harrow - No
2012 - Teague - No
2011 - Knight - No
2010 - Wall - No
2009 - Porter - No
2008 - Bradley - No
2007 - Bradley - No
2006 - Rondo - Yes and Sparks? Hmm
2005 - Rondo
2004 - Hawkins
2003 - Hawkins
2002 - Hawkins
2001 - Smith?
2000 - Smith?

Ok. So based on that I think the second guy is between Sparks and Saul Smith. I will go with Saul Smith since he would be a "surprise" answer.

[ 04-14-2014, 02:50 PM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 04-14-2014, 02:49 PM:

Ok. I cheated and looked at the stats, and I was surprised. Trey, the one other than Rondo played for Coach Cal.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 04-14-2014, 02:52 PM:

Then I guess I would have to say Teague, but I didn't think he was above 2:1.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 04-14-2014, 03:10 PM:

Paul, the one I know that did it isn't one that played for Cal but did play for Tubby, his son.

Trey, Teague had a 1.75-1 assist to t/o ratio. Your Sparks comment is right but he played the shooting guard and have always thought that was by far the most fun guard combo to watch as because they both were from Kentucky and they really cared for each other. I don't know this as a fact but would bet they were the only Kentucky back court where both players had better than a 2-1 assist t/o ratio.

[ 04-14-2014, 03:24 PM: Message edited by: catmandoo ]

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 04-14-2014, 06:39 PM:

I assumed Mays would be lumped in as a point guard. Mays had 95 assists to only 38 turnovers.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 04-15-2014, 03:03 PM:

quote:
Originally posted by PaulCat:
I assumed Mays would be lumped in as a point guard. Mays had 95 assists to only 38 turnovers.

JMO, but I would view Mays as a shooting guard. I think Harrow and Polson mostly played the PG position during his year. Still I would have never guessed him. Now if the question was which player led UK in pump fakes? I would have answered Mays right away. [Big Grin]

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 04-15-2014, 03:13 PM:

He was a pump-fake genius!

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 04-15-2014, 03:27 PM:

If Mays had played on this years team he would have led the team in free throw shooting by a wide margin but also 3 point shooting percentage. I doubt few people realize that Mays not only made more 3's that Wiltjer his percentage was higher too.