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handycat
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posted 12-17-2018 10:19 AM
I honestly don't understand the opposition of at least partially funding the border wall. I don't particularly like Trump but to fight him on this is to cut your nose off to spite your face.
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Old Norm
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posted 12-17-2018 11:05 AM
He campaigned on this and they know it. It's partially why he got elected. The question is, do they think the public is too stupid to figure out WHY he didn't deliver on that promise?
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-17-2018 11:07 AM
If I'm not mistaken Trump was offered full funding for his wall in exchange for DACA protections back in March-he turned it down...get something, give something.
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ukcatfannfl
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posted 12-17-2018 01:12 PM
mm says: get something, give something.
The United States should not rpt not have yo give anything for border security. It is naïve to think otherwise unless one wants more illegals to support with tax payer money or perhaps to garter votes!
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-17-2018 01:47 PM
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The United States should not rpt not have yo give anything for border security. It is naïve to think otherwise unless one wants more illegals to support with tax payer money or perhaps to garter votes!
You lost me Ed.
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SCWC
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posted 12-17-2018 05:55 PM
We have no obligation to stay with the Obama Daca charade. I was happy to see Trump turn that deal down. A wall is certainly needed between the US and Mexico, a country from which we get all or most of our illegal immigrants and some 95 percent of illegal drugs. The wall would not get rid of all of that but it would certainly be a big help.
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ukcatfannfl
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posted 12-17-2018 09:44 PM
MM "you lost me ed"
One word to that "Really!"
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-18-2018 09:21 AM
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We have no obligation to stay with the Obama Daca charade. I was happy to see Trump turn that deal down. A wall is certainly needed between the US and Mexico, a country from which we get all or most of our illegal immigrants and some 95 percent of illegal drugs. The wall would not get rid of all of that but it would certainly be a big help.
If Trump would do what he promised he wouldn't have to compromise with anybody....make Mexico pay for the wall.
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One word to that "Really!"
Yep.
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ukcatfannfl
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posted 12-18-2018 04:01 PM
Mexico will in fact pay for it as more illegals that are not in the U.S. the less money paid to support them by the u.s. taxpayers. Hence Mexico pays...plus less money sent to Mexico by the illegals from the U.S. the more U.S. dollars stay in the U.S.
Plus no more dum ass claiming dozens of tax deductions on family members living in Mexico but our income system allows checks to be cut on these deductions in the form of millions of dollars each year.
Many ways that the illegal population from various are screwing the U.S. citizen. Those are some of the ways that Mexico will pay for the wall.
He will be keeping his promise which directly impacts all of us that are citizens of the greatest country in the world
(can debate that also as I lived in multiple countries)
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Old Norm
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posted 12-18-2018 06:34 PM
Fact is, Mister Trump offered a path to citizenship for 1.8 million "dreamers", for border wall funding. Democrats refused offer. You can look it up like I did.
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-19-2018 06:51 PM
I looked it up.
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clydeh
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posted 12-19-2018 07:19 PM
If Democrats block the wall funding, I think Trump should list the names of those who blocked the funding each time a illegal immigrant kills or wounds someone.
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Old Norm
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posted 12-19-2018 07:46 PM
I think he should at least threaten to expose the names of those congressmen that used the "slush fund" of taxpayer money to pay off women that accused them of sexual misconduct.
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-20-2018 10:05 AM
How can Trump call out anybody for wrong doing when virtually everything he has touched is under investigation?
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posted 12-20-2018 10:29 AM
MM, honestly now. The democrats have unleashed a "special counsel" to essentially dig up dirt on Trump while he is in office. Yes, all politicians do "op intel" when running for office so they can sling some mud. But this is unprecedented.
Any, and I mean any person who has lived a life "large" enough to rise to the presidency will have things in their past. If the republicans had brought in a special counsel to hound Obama, the results would have been similar -- a crippled presidency, and doubt thrown at any of his motives. The difference, of course, is that the Special Counsel investigating Obama would not have an actively complicit media amplifying everything. Instead, the media would have covered for Obama just as much as they are pushing for Trump's demise.
This is politics. The reality is that many republicans (including me) find Trump repulsive as a person, but by golly, he is a damn effective president. I don't like his tweets, his 4th-grade vocabulary, his endless threats and taunts, but I do like where he is taking this country. But, honestly, the whole "Russia collusion" thing was just an excuse to bring the unbridled power of a Special Counsel to bear to do the democrat's dirty work.
But, to your point... hell yes, Trump can point out other's faults. Being "under investigation" is not "guilty". But, even if he IS guilty, NONE of us are without sin. Under your rule, being under the suspicion of sin must mean that we cannot see the sin in others? Maybe it is a bit of "it takes one to know one", but nobody in this nation can be muzzled because they have stains on their soul.
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-20-2018 11:06 AM
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MM, honestly now. The democrats have unleashed a "special counsel" to essentially dig up dirt on Trump.
It wasn't the democrats who "unleashed" a special council.
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SCWC
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posted 12-20-2018 12:12 PM
Rod Rosenstein certainly is no Republican. In my opinion, someone should be investigating him. The Obama administration under Comey and his henchmen have destroyed the integrity of our FBI and I fear they will never recover their once proud tradition as our nations leading law enforcement agency. They have become a pawn of the democratic party.
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-20-2018 12:37 PM
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Rod Rosenstein certainly is no Republican.
He was before Trump came along.
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posted 12-20-2018 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by MountainMafia:
If I'm not mistaken Trump was offered full funding for his wall in exchange for DACA protections back in March-he turned it down...get something, give something.
To hell with Daca migrants. That was an OBama initiative and has been kept around by his leftist judges.
I hate hearing liberals crying for the “dreamers”. OBama was wrong to give them a golden ticket to jump the line. Send them back and make them get in line with everyone else.
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SCWC
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posted 12-20-2018 03:48 PM
MM, I personally think Rosenstein is a crook who should be locked up. Some of his actions certainly show that he is no pro Trump assistant attorney general. He is one that signed some of the FISA warrants based on the bogus british spy dossier and for that reason alone, he is a criminal in my opinion. I would not give an FBR agent the day of time were he to ask me, I think the Justice Department are trying to run our country through Mueller and Rosenstein and hopefully that will soon come to an end for both of them.
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posted 12-20-2018 04:33 PM
While on the subject, I'd like somebody explain to me how ANY federal judge can block anything a president decrees. If that is allowed to stand, it would work both ways, and we would come to a total and complete standstill. Who gave these judges that much power, and why can't just any other federal judge overrule him?
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