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Trey Ball
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posted 12-18-2018 01:36 PM
I know many of you despise the NBA and often think they just roll the ball out and the players play individually, but here is a great look at how these NBA minds work.
I absolutely love this article and I think it details out how important spacing is and how coaches can visually make it happen for their players to understand.
I know not all will find it interesting, but for those who do, here is the link:
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25559428/the-4-point-line-just-beginning-nba-la test-trend
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
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Tiptree
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posted 12-18-2018 01:59 PM
Cool article. I liked every one of the 'gamification' tools. The 4-point line may be applicable only to a handful of teams (Golden State, Atlanta, and ?), but the spacing boxes, the corner-shot line, and the 12-foot arc are great tools for any team.
Including UK. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Tiptree
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WHO?UK
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posted 12-18-2018 03:15 PM
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25542299
I love Cal but I wish he would be a little more willing to let our guys let the 3s go. Especially when he says this is one of the best 3 point shooting teams he has ever head in the above video. However, he does say they are terrible at spacing and passing.
I digress, excellent article Trey Ball it was very enlightening into the preparation that goes into the NBA game. I always laugh when people say there is no D in the NBA. If that is the case then why do great college players wash out so quickly so often. Everyone can score in the NBA and after that comes, "who are you going to guard."
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Trey Ball
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posted 12-18-2018 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by Tiptree:
Cool article. I liked every one of the 'gamification' tools. The 4-point line may be applicable only to a handful of teams (Golden State, Atlanta, and ?), but the spacing boxes, the corner-shot line, and the 12-foot arc are great tools for any team.
Including UK.
Tip,
I would actually say the 4-Point line probably applies to at least a third of the teams in the league: Houston/Boston/Brooklyn/Charlotte/Toronto/Sacramento/Clippers when Lou Williams is on the floor, all come to mind. Even Phoenix when Booker is running the point falls into that category, but yes most the 4-Point line idea is limited to fewer teams. It just takes one deep shooter to pull off the spacing.
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
redbone
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Trey Ball
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posted 12-18-2018 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by WHO?UK:
it was very enlightening into the preparation that goes into the NBA game. I always laugh when people say there is no D in the NBA. If that is the case then why do great college players wash out so quickly so often. Everyone can score in the NBA and after that comes, "who are you going to guard."
I've always said Coach K not only benefited from running USA basketball because of all the personal connections that it gave it to all the Top Players these young kids idolize, but more importantly it gave him access to the great minds of NBA elite coaches and I have seen him take what they do nightly and roll it into his program.
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
redbone
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posted 12-19-2018 07:30 AM
I personally don't like the dribble-drive philosophy. I watch a lot of basketball and I see so many teams that just pass the ball well and get open shots. Dribble-drive just makes me feel like i'm watching one-on-five basketball. Remember the movie Hoosiers? They had to make four passes before attempting a shot or they sat on the pine. Gene Hackman was a genius! ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted 12-20-2018 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Trey Ball:
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Originally posted by WHO?UK:
it was very enlightening into the preparation that goes into the NBA game. I always laugh when people say there is no D in the NBA. If that is the case then why do great college players wash out so quickly so often. Everyone can score in the NBA and after that comes, "who are you going to guard."
I've always said Coach K not only benefited from running USA basketball because of all the personal connections that it gave it to all the Top Players these young kids idolize, but more importantly it gave him access to the great minds of NBA elite coaches and I have seen him take what they do nightly and roll it into his program.
Yes sir and if you look at the 5 out motion offense K was pitching when Cal was talking Dribble Drive, it little mirrors the spacing aspect of the 4 point line. While most teams are not bombing 3s like Houston and GS the use of the 4 point line is to provide spacing which puts defenders on islands. When we go into droughts its usually directly related to 3 of our players sharing a 5 foot radius on the court. It really makes it hard to penetrate and kick when you got one defender able to stand in front of our guys.
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posted 12-20-2018 12:19 PM
I agree that the Dribble Drive is my least favorite "motion" offense. And the backcourt "weave" that we often use is just deplorable.
I like simplicity, and the five-out or other perimeter-oriented schemes seem the simplest to teach. Far simpler than a complex set of screens and picks, or the endless dribbling we see in the few occasions when Cal uses the DD. The five-out seems especially well suited to players that we recruit -- five star athletes who should be able to use their AAU skills to beat an isolated defender.
But, Cal really doesn't like a perimeter game. He is old-school, and wants the offense to always go through the post. Without dominant post players like KAT, WCS, or Boogie, this doesn't seem to work very well. We have some decent guards and wings... build an offense around that talent!
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posted 12-20-2018 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by Tiptree:
I agree that the Dribble Drive is my least favorite "motion" offense. And the backcourt "weave" that we often use is just deplorable.
I like simplicity, and the five-out or other perimeter-oriented schemes seem the simplest to teach. Far simpler than a complex set of screens and picks, or the endless dribbling we see in the few occasions when Cal uses the DD. The five-out seems especially well suited to players that we recruit -- five star athletes who should be able to use their AAU skills to beat an isolated defender.
But, Cal really doesn't like a perimeter game. He is old-school, and wants the offense to always go through the post. Without dominant post players like KAT, WCS, or Boogie, this doesn't seem to work very well. We have some decent guards and wings... build an offense around that talent!
You hit the nail on the head. These kids would thrive in a 5 out system or 4 out 1 in with good spacing. Cal's mentality is actually quite the opposite of what the game has transitioned too. Im still with him because I don't believe there are many coaches better.
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