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Author Topic: We won but are Louisville the better team? SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 02:26 PM                    We ended up ahead on the final score but in my opinion U of L are a better team talent wise and most certainly coaching wise to our Cats. It hurts me to say that but it is the way I honestly feel. I felt Cal would lose the game for the kids in the last two minutes and he almost did, they won in spite of some of his less than brilliant decisions. Cal always scares me in close game and this team also do with the way they shoot free throws. [ 12-26-2015, 03:14 PM: Message edited by: SCWC ] Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 02:33 PM                     UL has two solid guards, that's the only thing that impresses me about them! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 02:33 PM                     8 assists on 27 made baskets is not that impressive of a TEAM to me! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 02:40 PM                    They get a ton of second chance points off hustle. They play harder and have better talent than we do in my opinion. Murray is a scorer. Their guards are as good as ours and their front line players are as good or better than ours. Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 02:45 PM                     If we would have gone into Poythress the second half the game wouldn't been even close. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 02:46 PM                     15 t/o's really hurt us too and 7 by Murray alone. [ 12-26-2015, 02:47 PM: Message edited by: catmandoo ] -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 02:48 PM                     We take care of the ball and we win by double digits. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 02:49 PM                    Bruce, we went to Poy early in the second half and then quit all of a sudden. I wondered why, did not see any real defensive adjustments U of L made on him. Murray got to hogging the ball in my opinion. POY is the one that scored the points that put us up by 14, then he got the ball no more. [ 12-26-2015, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: SCWC ] Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 02:54 PM                    Three point shooting, not one of our strong suits thus far this season, won today's game. We have all felt that outside and free throw shooting would cost us games, the foul shooting almost did that today. Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 03:17 PM                     Murray went 3-14 from the field, 7 t/o's and that says it all. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 03:24 PM                     Ray, you should have heard Cal in the after game interview. He was rolling using the "I" word many times with not so much on his players. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged ALA_KAT2 Player Member # 1559 posted 12-26-2015 03:28 PM                     UL ratcheted up the D the second half and quit allowing easy entry passes into Poy. Maybe UK went away from Poy somewhat too. Pitino's teams always step up the D in the second half of games. And, Cal is not known for his last 5 minutes of the game coaching. I thought UK went into their late game stall offense with about 10 minutes to go. -------------------- Adair CHS 1966/USAF/WKU/AT&T GO BIG BLUE! Posts: 4046 | From: Louisville, KY | Registered: Dec 2001  |  IP: Logged boomdaddy Player Member # 2644 posted 12-26-2015 03:33 PM                    Kentucky had to go without one if its PGs, forcing Ulis to play the whole game. Skal, at the present, is a liability. Kentucky won. I will take it. UK has a lot more room for improvement. Whenever the light comes on for Skal, UK will me a much better team. On the bright side, Mr. Ulis played his butt of and seems to be back from the injury. Posts: 8791 | From: paris, ky | Registered: Mar 2006  |  IP: Logged PaulCat Player Member # 513 posted 12-26-2015 04:00 PM                    To answer the subject question, no. Louisville is not the better team. They are weak in many aspects of the game. Posts: 10348 | From: Erlanger, Ky. USA | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 04:50 PM                    Ulis is a winner, that kid was a thorn in U of L's side last year and he carried us today. He is an incredible point guard, I wish he were six four or five with his skills, he would be unstoppable, almost is even at his current size. Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged Bama Cat Player Member # 153 posted 12-26-2015 05:01 PM                     I agree with a lot of the above. Skals PT is going downhill fast. If he doesn't start understanding that his role right now is supposed to be defense and rebounds he may fade completely to the bench. I'm not sure if he has any potential at this time so he better start learning to pass out of double and triple teams. Murray appears to be a ball hog but maybe Cal is telling him to drive everything. I know he's not telling him to shoot everything. Several times he looked dumb trying to throw the ball up and draw a foul, which wasn't going to happen. His only good point today was he made a couple 3's at the end. We did have some great play out of Poythress, Ulis, Hawkins and Lee. Posts: 14178 | From: berea, ky, usa | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged Tiptree Administrator Member # 844 posted 12-26-2015 05:17 PM                     I got the impression that Cal told the team to get the ball to Murray at halftime. After his no-show in the first half, I think Cal had visions of Murray's amazing second half against OSU. But, all Murry did was drive into defenders and turn the ball over. He made a few threes, but overall, he cost us a lot more points than he gave us. Cal just needs to sit Skal on the bench and let him watch for a few games; either that or let him play the '4'. As a 5, he is a terrible rebounder, cannot hold onto the ball, is very weak, and has NO back-to-the basket game. His strength is facing the goal, but Cal wants that bent-back skinny kid to be the next Kareem Abdul Jabbar! Poy was amazing today, shredding their zone when we drew them out closer to the arc. I don't know why we stopped looking for him at the elbow, on the baseline, or flashing into the key. He was active, moving without the ball, and very effective when we got the ball to him. Ullis is fast rising on my list of all-time favorite UK guards. What a game! Willis, Matthews, and especially Hawkins gave us valuable minutes. And Lee started the game playing like a man possessed, but foul trouble took the energy out of him in the second half. -------------------- Tiptree “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson Posts: 13628 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 05:20 PM                     UL may have missed Mathiang but he wouldn't have been a difference maker in this one! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 05:21 PM                     Playing with Lee in foul trouble and Skal giving us nothing means we are a pretty good team with so much room for improvement! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 05:24 PM                     We need to get Poythress on the baseline as a regular part of our offense! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-26-2015 05:28 PM                    Playing without Briscoe means a lot to us too, he is probably our best on the ball defender. I figured us not having Briscoe and them not having their back up center sort of offset. I hope we get that kind of effort out of Alex every game, he was a terror today. Cal said in his after the game radio show that Lee and Alex were his best front court right now, that Skal has a lot to learn but will eventually learn. He was really down on Murray, indicating he was playing for himself more than the team without mentioning his name. Murray is an outstanding talent but he needs to learn to play team ball which is what Cal indicated. Murray was apparently option one through five playing in Canada and now that he is with a group of talented players he has to learn to share and handle the ball much better. The SEC has some pretty quality teams this year and is not going to be a cakewalk like prior years. All the SEC teams have upgraded their schedules, gone on the road and are now prepared for conference play. I think our league will be very tough this year, especially on the road. Hopefully Skal's learning curve comes quickly, we need that height in our line up. Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 06:07 PM                     This team is not as talented as past teams but under Cal's guidance I think we have the team that will get better and better. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-26-2015 06:08 PM                     No way to go but up! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 06:09 PM                     Skal's upside sky high so a lot of our improvement is up to Cal and his coachs to get the most out of Skal. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged PaulCat Player Member # 513 posted 12-26-2015 09:05 PM                    Is it just me or does it seem like we don't run any plays for Skal other than a typical post-up? Where's the curl and lob? Where's the baseline lob? It just seems like they don't run plays for him like they've run in the past for Davis, Noel, Towns, Stein... Posts: 10348 | From: Erlanger, Ky. USA | Registered: Mar 2000  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-26-2015 09:24 PM                     Paul, that's a good question. It looks like they have other options that Cal thinks are better. You can bet if the players were not getting the ball into Skal when he thought they should they would be sitting next to him in a heartbeat. I just think Skal needs more time to adjust to college basketball. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged SCWC Player Member # 2464 posted 12-27-2015 05:21 PM                    We were getting the lobs earlier in the year and Skal was playing pretty good. I can't figure out what has happened myself. He is a very good shooter facing the basket and has a good little hook shot with either hand. We need to get him to playing up to his capabilities soon if we are to be the team we are all expecting us to be this season. He is a very good talent, just needs experience, strength and to learn how to play the college game with physical big men on him. Posts: 17777 | From: Myrtle Beach, SC | Registered: Jun 2005  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-27-2015 09:01 PM                     Ray, it looks to be waste of his talents. Skal has gotten worse instead of better. I don't know what it is but Cal just seems to have forgotten him and it's showing. It really looks like Skal is afraid to make a mistake instead of using his God given talents. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-27-2015 11:07 PM                     I thought Willis had a very bad game and is soft for a guy his size. Cal played him 16 minutes, in that time he goes 1-4 shooting and 3 of those shots were from beyond the arc. He has the size and should be mixing it up down low and he keeps drifting out to shoot 3's! He only took 1 shot inside the arc. He also only had 2 rebounds and turned it over twice. He needs to play a little more aggressive when he does he will get more minutes. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged EnterpriseCat Player Member # 2881 posted 12-28-2015 06:52 AM                    Skal's poor play is a combination of lack of strength and confidence, IMO. He is putting way too much energy into thinking rather than being instinctive. I'm hoping he can right the ship, but it's not looking good at the moment. -------------------- Romans 8:38-39 JD4U Posts: 2307 | From: Enterprise, AL | Registered: Oct 2007  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-28-2015 09:36 AM                     BAck to the original post, I'm not sure Louisville is the better team. THey have two really strong players both 22+ years old, most of their baskets are trash baskets because our boys are out of position for the defensive rebound. -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-28-2015 09:37 AM                     If you wathc the game again you'll see that UL starts slowly in both halves. going between 5-6 minutes before they score their second basket! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-28-2015 09:38 AM                     WIth 7 minutes to play in the game UL is already in double bonus for FT shooting and KY still isn't in the bonus! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-28-2015 09:41 AM                     You have to give Louisville credit they play hard and Pitino gets a awful lot out of players that are not NBA bound. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-28-2015 09:43 AM                     Pitino's style of play really puts a lot of pressure on the player with the ball and they over play the passing lanes. He gets a lot out of his players, no doubt about it. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-28-2015 09:47 AM                     Uof L definitely had a advantage in that last 10 minutes but we didn't fold and showed are true grit. It had to drive Pitino nuts that he couldn't close the deal. Cal and the players have a lot to be proud of playing as they did coming down the stretch. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged m hamilton Player Member # 127 posted 12-28-2015 09:58 AM                     Rewatching the game, UL players , for the most part didn't have very many open looks at the basket. They were always forced to push the ball inside the three point line. 8 assists and 15 turnovers means they really didn't play too much team ball, more, Lewis or Lee drive! -------------------- The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package! I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!! Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!! Posts: 123992 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged catmandoo Player Member # 1284 posted 12-28-2015 10:02 AM                     Cats played hard and certainly didn't give them many open shots. Got to credit our hard play on defense. -------------------- http://www.ukfightsong.com/ Posts: 186359 | From: st. augustine florida 32092 | Registered: Mar 2001  |  IP: Logged

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