|
Author
|
Topic: Washington protests.
|
handycat
Player
Member # 2323
|
posted 01-06-2021 05:45 PM
My inside sources in the White House are telling me we are about to see dozens, maybe hundreds, of pardons given in the near future.
[ 01-06-2021, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
Posts: 5400 | From: decatur ill. | Registered: Feb 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Bama Cat
Player
Member # 153
|
posted 01-07-2021 11:53 AM
It's a shame a few have to do this when most were just protesting. But it sure is funny how things have changed since Biden was elected. We are all supposed to just change our attitudes and be friends with everybody. Where was the voice from the Democrats when they were burning, stealing, taking police headquarters and creating their own city in Oregon and other cities?????
It always seems funny how your thoughts change when you are in complete control of the WHOLE COUNTRY. Now we are supposed to be the nice guys that the Dems couldn't be for 4 whole years.
My daugter-in-law flew back on Sunday from Italy where my son is stationed with the Army. She wanted to be a part of a rally being held for a president she believes in, and she is a native, life long Californian. She had to leave and go back to her hotel when the police had to restrain the crowd.
I don't really care much now since the Dems have it all. Let them figure out all these problems we have in this country. All I got to say is I don't want to hear all the complaining when people still don't have jobs after the pandemic or that they are starving because of the Dems actions. I'm retired and just waiting for his first step to take his 3.3 trillion from the retirees. Social Security will most likely be changed to tax 100% of it making it as rough on the old folks while we pay his bills.
Posts: 14161 | From: berea, ky, usa | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
MEL
Player
Member # 141
|
posted 01-07-2021 02:38 PM
I am with you BC .... we are going to hell in a hand basket quick IMHO !!!
I work in a store that sells ammo and I stock the shepofs 3 days a week and we are sellilng sooooooo much ammo it is insane and have been since March.
We sell of of all kinds of calibers in a couple of hours if not sooner everyday. Even .22 shells are flying off the shelves. We limit the number of handgun ammo to 1 box per caliber per day per customer and 2 boxes of rifle and the shelves and backstock are empty everyday. We get a lot in and it flies out the door as soon as we get it. Sometimes we don't even get it ot the shelves and just hand it out. Sometimes we are getting out so fast we don't even have time to get prices on the shelves and people are grabbing it not caring how much it is.
We get a lot of guns almost everyday and they are flying out almost as fast as the ammo. Some people will buy a certain caliber of gun because we have that caliber ammo and not the caliber they have a gun for already. lol
Our reloading department is the same way. We can't get enough primers, powder or brass, and when we do it is gone as fast as we can get it out.
If Creep Joe decides he wants to take our guns he will have a hell of a shootout trying to take it from the conservatives. I can't think of a police officer that would even want to go to someone's door and try and take someone's gun(s).
MEL
Posts: 2795 | From: Greeley, CO, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
Tiptree
Administrator
Member # 844
|
posted 01-07-2021 06:12 PM
I am disappointed that the rage finally overcame our side, and they took too violence. Up to yesterday, that was the province of the Left.
But I am equally disappointed in the response. Months and months of violence and rioting in cities across America, and nobody was stopped, nobody was harmed. Even when US Senator Rand Paul was assaulted, the police did not retaliate against the perpetrators.
But let Trump supporters get out of hand, and the bullets start flying. The double standard is sickening.
Our country is divided like we have not seen in our lifetime... and nobody has seen since the civil war. Rancor and hostility have been encouraged, and not just by one side. And now we teeter on the edge of real chaos.
One group (variously called "White Males", or "Trump supporters", but I think both labels are woefully insufficient) has been pushed to the edge. When antifa and BLM were rioting and burning cities, the news focused on any white person who tried to defend themselves or others. Remember that couple in St. Louis who dared to bring guns out on the lawn to defend their home? THEY became the villains, and THEY were indicted by the law! And the kid in Wisconsin who ended up shooting someone in self defense is demonized, while those who put him in the position are let off without blame.
The people who just want to get along, to defend what is theirs, who have no animosity towards others, have been pushed and pushed and pushed. And now, we get this.
I am appalled by what happened. Violence and rioting are not a solution. They are expressions of rage, and rage must be controlled. But there is plenty of evidence of election fraud, which judges either refused to consider, or did not have the sophistication to understand (some of the evidence requires significant understanding of mathematics and statistics). The numbers being tossed around range from tens of thousands to several hundred thousand votes that were tampered with. Yet, our Republican party didn't even whimper as they laid down before Biden's feet. No opposition to speak of. Now the democrats know they need not lose an election ever again.
I am worried. Very, very worried. One half of this country feels completely betrayed and disenfranchised, and they feel the institutions that should protect them have failed. That group is generally made up of people of principle, and people of action. As Mel points out, guns and ammunition are flying off shelves, and have been ever since the George Floyd affair. This can end very, very badly.
--------------------
Tiptree
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 13622 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
Old Norm
Administrator
Member # 1482
|
posted 01-07-2021 06:49 PM
And now, Ms Polosi wants to impeach the president again, with only two weeks left before his time in the white house ends. Is there any doubt in anybodies mind what that's about? The democrats are scared to death that he will run again in 2024, and unless they cheat even more than they did this time, he'll kick their butts big time.
[ 01-08-2021, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: Old Norm ]
--------------------
Pray For Our Country!
Posts: 36270 | From: Western KY | Registered: Aug 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
MEL
Player
Member # 141
|
posted 01-07-2021 06:53 PM
I so hope he does Norm !!!
MEL
Posts: 2795 | From: Greeley, CO, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
Bama Cat
Player
Member # 153
|
posted 01-07-2021 09:42 PM
I do too but I'm afraid I won't live to see it happen. I really think the Republican party has reached the peak and now will start trending downward with us losing more seats in the senate and reversing the good trend we had going in the House. I don't know how Trump can leave town but in disgrace for what has happened.
Posts: 14161 | From: berea, ky, usa | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
MEL
Player
Member # 141
|
posted 01-07-2021 09:47 PM
I believe anytime in history that one party held the house, the senate and the President at the next election the other party won because the people didn't like the balance or non balance and got out and voted them out of office.
There is a reason for balance.
MEL
Posts: 2795 | From: Greeley, CO, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
Old Norm
Administrator
Member # 1482
|
posted 01-08-2021 09:16 AM
If they impeach and convict him, he'll not be eligible to hold the office again. This is some dirty, dirty politics. A year from now, unemployment will be up at least 10%, and The market may fall even more than that. China now pretty much owns us.
--------------------
Pray For Our Country!
Posts: 36270 | From: Western KY | Registered: Aug 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
Tiptree
Administrator
Member # 844
|
posted 01-08-2021 11:51 AM
The conservative position will forever decline in our political system.
Why?
Because the Left's desire is simple. More. More government. More programs. More money for those programs. If they fail, then that means even MORE money for them. There is no limit, and anything "more" is OK with them.
Conservatives want to reign that in, but they cannot give a rational, easy-to-understand reason why. There ARE valid, constitutional constraints on government that were blown through years ago. Now, those limits are just "history". Convincing a public who is completely uneducated about our nation and our founding documents that we should cut back on government programs is FUTILE.
Besides, conservatives are not united. There is no agreement that LESS is the right answer. Some will say less of this, but more of that. So, every time the left says "more" for something, some Republicans will agree. But anytime the right says "less" for something, not a SINGLE democrat will agree.
Thus, the government grows larger, either bit-by-bit, or in huge leaps. It will never get smaller, and it will never be "big enough" for the Left. Eventually, it will all come crashing down.
The Republican party is feckless, disorganized, and with no common theme. McConnel is a shrewd tactician, but he has absolutely no strategy. I will be very surprised if the Republican party exists on it's 200th birthday in 2060. In fact, while the party structure may exist for a while, the party will never win either house nor the presidency again.
--------------------
Tiptree
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 13622 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
handycat
Player
Member # 2323
|
posted 01-08-2021 06:15 PM
quote:
The conservative position will forever decline in our political system.
Unfortunately, I agree with that quote. I suspect our opinions for the cause is radically different.
It’s been a long time since we’ve had a conservative occupy the Oval Office. Trump certainly was not a fiscal conservative during his tenure. If you don’t believe me, please look at his time in office and point out where I’m wrong in my reasoning. Yes, I realize military spending needed to be increased. There were other legit reasons as well. That does not account for the huge increase in our National Debt “pre-Covid”. Throw in his ridiculous proposal for $2000.00 per person in the Stimulus Bill and tell me he is a fiscal conservative. Unfortunately, Trump and Biden agree on this.
You can make an argument about his social conservatism compared to democrats and I won’t argue too stringently. However, I will point out almost all his social beliefs changed drastically in the few short years before he decided to run for President. Perhaps, God spoke to him from a burning bush shortly before he decided to run. Not sure about that, but many of his followers would agree.
I wish Ronald Reagan would have spoken to him as well.
I sincerely belief our country has taken a giant step toward extreme liberalism, if not outright socialism. I lay that at the feet of Donald Trump
I said on here a few weeks ago, that I had real fears of losing the two Senate Seats in Georgia, something that should never had happened. His campaign trip to Georgia would have been laughable, if not so pathetic. He “may” have mentioned the two Republican candidates in passing, but most of his speech was devoted to his false narrative of voter fraud in their state. If some of you have evidence to prove this election was fraudulent, you probably should forward that evidence to Barr, Pence, Pompeo, Republican Governors, The Supreme Court, several federal and state courts, etc. The President and his lawyer’s have not been able to present theirs in a way that any court is willing to entertain.
This is just my opinion, I believe being told by the President of the United States that votes in Georgia are basically worthless may have lost some Republican votes. Enough to lose the election? Probably not. However, add to that the many moderate Republicans and Independents who were and are sick and tired of the lies and conspiracy theories, you “may”have added enough votes for a Democratic victory in the Peach State.
Do I have any proof or evidence of this? Nope! But remember, when it comes to “theories”, people who live in glass houses probably shouldn’t throw stones.
There is another concern I have of where our country may be heading politically. What happens if Trump breaks off from the Republican Party and founds and leads a third party? I believe that is a real possibility. I really have no idea what percentage of Republicans would follow him. There are many who will believe and do whatever he says. I think it would be substantial. At the very least,I think it would ensure Democratic domination for years.
So yes, I have real concerns in the direction our country is going.
One last thing before I end this long and rambling post.
I am Not disappointed in the assault on our Nations Capital. I am outraged! Just like I was outraged with the riots of BLM and ANTiFA. Just because you are a Trump supporter, does not mean you can’t be a thug.
[ 01-08-2021, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: handycat ]
Posts: 5400 | From: decatur ill. | Registered: Feb 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
Tiptree
Administrator
Member # 844
|
posted 01-08-2021 07:47 PM
Handy.
I am going to take a long time to respond. Suffice it to say that I disagree with almost every word your wrote. Understand that I am almost as repulsed by Trump's character as you are before you read my response. But, look beyond Trump. The reason Biden was elected was simply because he was not Donald Trump.
We now reap the consequences.
And I will give a much, much more substantial response once I step away and let my anger subside.
--------------------
Tiptree
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 13622 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
handycat
Player
Member # 2323
|
posted 01-08-2021 07:59 PM
Tip,
Please don’t waste your time. I’ll never read it.
Posts: 5400 | From: decatur ill. | Registered: Feb 2005
| IP: Logged
|
|
m hamilton
Player
Member # 127
|
posted 01-08-2021 08:25 PM
Go ahead and write it, Tip! I'll be happy to read it! I ready to tell everyone who voted for the Moron in Charge I TOLD YOU SO!!!!
HEY but just wait, we're all going to get more government handouts!! I can hardly wait to start paying more taxes to pay for something that I didn't want or need in the first place!
But wait there's more. You guys receiving Social Security, It won't be so secure anymore! But that's what we wanted , right? You don't mind paying more taxes on something you earned do you! That's exactly what I thought!
The new (potus) Pedophile of the United States is going to take care of us all!
--------------------
The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!
Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!!
Posts: 123984 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
Old Norm
Administrator
Member # 1482
|
posted 01-08-2021 08:29 PM
You two are probably my favorites here. That makes this very sad for me. If this feud materializes, Old Norm just may have to disappear from here.
--------------------
Pray For Our Country!
Posts: 36270 | From: Western KY | Registered: Aug 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
m hamilton
Player
Member # 127
|
posted 01-08-2021 08:30 PM
By the way, back on the subject, how come the demonstration that kept the Senate from entering their quarters in October of '18 during the Kavanaugh hearings wasn't such a big deal? It's because it happened to conservatives and not liberals!
--------------------
The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!
Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!!
Posts: 123984 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
m hamilton
Player
Member # 127
|
posted 01-08-2021 08:33 PM
Speaking of Outrage, I'm outraged that our soon to be VP was helping raise money to BAIL OUT the CRIMINALS being charged in Minnesota! Let that sink in for a minute! It was OK for them to burn down Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland! THE potus, I'll never capitalize this for the next 4 years, never stepped up and said stop this. This shouldn't be going on! It's OK because they were part of the Liberal agenda!
--------------------
The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!
Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!!
Posts: 123984 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
m hamilton
Player
Member # 127
|
posted 01-08-2021 08:39 PM
I also intend on PROTESTING this past election for the next 4 years! There are a lot of statistics that just don't add up in this one! You can argue with me until you are (Wildcat) BLUE in the face, but numbers don't lie!!!
--------------------
The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!
Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!!
Posts: 123984 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
Tiptree
Administrator
Member # 844
|
posted 01-08-2021 10:23 PM
quote:
Please don’t waste your time. I’ll never read it.
Thus it ends, eh? Over what exactly? Are my opinions so bitter for you to read?
Very sorry to hear this. I am more than a little disappointed in you.
Tiptree, OUT.
--------------------
Tiptree
“If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson
Posts: 13622 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000
| IP: Logged
|
|
Old Norm
Administrator
Member # 1482
|
posted 01-09-2021 12:23 PM
I am out as well. If anyone wants to contact me, my email is: normandmillie1958@gmail.com.
--------------------
Pray For Our Country!
Posts: 36270 | From: Western KY | Registered: Aug 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
ukcatfannfl
Player
Member # 1425
|
posted 01-09-2021 02:40 PM
I echo Tip and old Norm.. OUT
Libs can have it!
--------------------
ukcatfannfl
Posts: 8771 | From: Inverness, FL | Registered: Jun 2001
| IP: Logged
|
|
MEL
Player
Member # 141
|
posted 01-09-2021 03:17 PM
Funny how many are getting arrested but remind me again of how many were arrested in Oregon for taking over the police station ?!?!?
MEL
Posts: 2795 | From: Greeley, CO, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
m hamilton
Player
Member # 127
|
posted 01-09-2021 04:40 PM
Didn't fit the narrative, Mel. They were peacefully protesting when they took over the police dept. burned half a city block and looted that same block in Portland! That was all peaceful, but remember it was all OK in Seattle until the said PEACEFUL PROTEST ended up on the Mayors block. Then they put a stop to it! Only when it effects them personally does it become a major issue!
--------------------
The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!
Your whole life is determined(by) 10% what happens to you, and 90% how you handle it!!!
Posts: 123984 | From: vevay, IN USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
MEL
Player
Member # 141
|
posted 01-09-2021 06:45 PM
So true MH, so true.
MEL
Posts: 2795 | From: Greeley, CO, USA | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic