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Bama Cat
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posted 12-18-2021 10:32 PM
I was asking myself the same question in the second half. I thought I saw Allen at the bench near the end. He may be sick or he may not have made the trip. No mention in the news so I'll almost bet he just wasn't played. Why does Cal even sign KY boys when he doesn't play them. I'm convinced he signs them just to apease BBN.
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Bluebird
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posted 12-19-2021 11:42 AM
When Cal emptied the bench at the end of the game, he ask Allen if he wanted to go in and he declined.
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Bama Cat
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posted 12-19-2021 12:36 PM
Sounds lik the honeymoon is just about over. Will sheppardgo down the same road?
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Tiptree
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posted 12-19-2021 12:59 PM
Allen is a good (but streaky) shooter, but he is doing himself no favors.
His defense is attrocious, and his attitude is even worse.
I doubt that Sheppard will have the same issues. All accounts point to a much bigger role for a man with his talents and work ethic.
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Trey Ball
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posted 12-19-2021 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by Tiptree:
Allen is a good (but streaky) shooter, but he is doing himself no favors.
His defense is attrocious, and his attitude is even worse.
I doubt that Sheppard will have the same issues. All accounts point to a much bigger role for a man with his talents and work ethic.
I see nothing wrong with what Allen did. Cal says he always ask if players want to go in for the last minute mop up and his policy is it is ok to say no. He said that option was not given to him as a player and hated it. I agree with him on this.
[ 12-19-2021, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]
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PaulCat
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posted 12-20-2021 07:36 AM
I could understand Allen's lack of playing time if the other guards were so much better than him. Mintz has been a disappointment to me this year. Grady is a pretty good shooter, but I believe Allen would be just as good, if not better, if he was getting 25-30 minutes a game like Grady.
I would play Allen over Mintz all day long, but I would give Allen the opportunity to shoot when he's comfortable. Allen has taken a few bad shots this year because all Cal does is stand on the sidelines shouting "SHOOT! SHOOT!". That's not how Allen is effective. Cal has his favorites and that's blatantly obvious over the years. I hate to say it, but Allen's best bet is to transfer and be able to play. He's wasting the best years of his life sitting on a bench.
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posted 12-20-2021 09:02 AM
IMO, Cal doesn’t play him because he’s black. I’m surprised no one else has come to this conclusion. Pretty obvious to me.
[ 12-20-2021, 09:16 AM: Message edited by: handycat ]
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Tiptree
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posted 12-20-2021 10:51 AM
I would definitely play Mintz over Allen right now. Mintz plays much, much better defense, and remains a scoring option.
I wish I could agree with the majority here, but when I watch Allen in the game, he just doesn't give that extra effort. He moves languidly, almost like he is saving his energy. Saving for what? The bench?
He is often out of place on defense, and he is "soft"... not at all willing to body up and play physical. Despite all that, I would play him if he was a consistent shooter. But, alas, he is far from that.
Grady, Mintz, Washington, Wheeler are all superior to Allen at this time. He reminds me a little of Derek Willis, who just didn't "get it" until his last couple of years. Willis also would come into the game, not display much energy or enthusiasm, get lost on defense, and was an inconsistent shooter. Why should Cal play such a guy? But later, he woke up and started playing hard, playing smart, and earned his PT. The same is available to Allen, but first he needs to wake up.
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posted 12-20-2021 12:21 PM
Tip, I agree with you.
My above comment was made tongue in cheek. Not necessarily on this site, but many UK fans insinuate, or out and out say, that Cal does not like to play Kentucky boys. That makes as much sense to me as my comment.
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clydeh
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posted 12-20-2021 03:47 PM
My wife who knows the mental aspects of basketball thinks that Allen needs the sixth man. Is Rupp going to be full for home games?
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ukman
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posted 12-21-2021 09:53 PM
Allen may just not be the right fit with Cal. That can happen with coaches and players. It would be hard to play when the coach is screaming at you to shoot everything,but then take you out if you miss that is what I have seen many times this year. His beat bet is to transfer somewhere. Now his effort should be better, and body language, but I can also understand a little what he might be feeling. Just wish it would motivate him to try harder,but he may feel it's a lost cause with Cal. Not saying it's right, but I could understand. He could be a juzang type and go somewhere else and really display his true potential, or he could transfer and show he just doesn't work hard. I predict he will be gone, but I thought the same for Willis. That is a good comparison. Hopefully that's what we'll get with Allen down the road.
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