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Topic: UL is is All-time Dishonor Roll Leader
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catmandoo
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posted 12-23-2020 12:15 PM
Kentucky’s basketball game against the University of Louisville this weekend comes at a time when the Cardinals are awaiting a rules investigation by the NCAA.
So, what else is new? The Cardinals are the most penalized team in NCAA history.
Louisville ranks No.1 all-time in the number of games and titles the team has had to forfeit in the last 10 years.
Here’s the Cards violations scorecard:
Louisville: 123 regular-season and tournament wins and 3 tournament losses vacated, covering four seasons (2011–2015). This includes the Cardinals’ 2012 Final Four appearance and 2013 national title, making them the first Division I basketball program of either sex forced to vacate a national title.
Other teams on the top 5 dishonor role list: 2. Stephen F. Austin: 117 regular season and tournament wins from 2014 to 2019 due to an administrative error in certifying eligibility for student-athletes. 3. Michigan: 113 regular season and tournament wins and 4 tournament losses vacated covering six of eight seasons between 1992 and 1999. 4: Syracuse: 106 regular season wins from 2004 to 2007 and 2010 to 2012. 5. Ohio State: 82 wins from 2014-2019.
Others in the top 10 include Fresno State, BYU, St. John’s, New Mexico State, and Memphis.
What about Kentucky?
The Wildcats do not even make the top 50 list with Eddie Sutton’s 1970-71 and 1971-72 teams vacating four tournament wins.
It’s ancient history, but the Wildcats were one of two hoop teams to ever receive the NCAA’s death penalty. This sanction was imposed against Kentucky for the 1952–53 season; and the Louisiana Ragin’ Cajuns men’s basketball program (then known as the University of Southwestern Louisiana) for the 1973–74 and 1974–75 seasons.
This was, of course the era of point-shaving scandals. (If you want to know the whole story about this era, read my book “Big Blue Blues.”)
NOTES: Kentucky’s loss to North Carolina was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. The whistle-happy refs sent players to the line for 59 free throws. The most ridiculous calls were the walking and moving screen calls…The most unbelievable UK stat: Olivier Saar played 19 minutes and never took a shot from the field.
One reason: He never got a pass in the post. You have an All-American candidate and he never gets off a shot? Think about it, John…UK is dumb as hell for not playing Dontaie Allen more. He needs at least 10-12 minutes a game (not mop-up 1-2 minutes).
Remember Derek Willis, another Kentucky sharpshooter who languished on Calipari’s bench for two years before becoming a star his last two years and is now a star on an Italian pro team.
Don’t do it again, Cal.
(Ken Mink is former Herald-Leader sports writer, journalist for 65 years and author of 26 books, He is a native of Vicco, near Hazard).
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rlt4uk
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posted 12-23-2020 02:53 PM
Eddie sutton wasn't coaching UK in the early 70's.
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Old Norm
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posted 12-23-2020 04:50 PM
No, he wasn't. I was stationed in Arkansas in the late 70s, and he was coaching, and doing a really good job, there.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-23-2020 06:10 PM
I think it's supposed to be '85-'86 and '86-'87 seasons
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catmandoo
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posted 12-23-2020 06:15 PM
Rupp retired in 1972 and Joe B's first season started in 1972.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-24-2020 08:25 AM
Hall was never put on probation for anything.
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clydeh
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posted 12-24-2020 12:16 PM
In 1961, I had the option of attending either UK or UL or UT medical schools. I do not know exactly why I chose UK. I was a student at UK beginning in 1961. I moved to California in 1966. I returned to Lexington in 1968. I enjoyed the UK basketball program during those years. During my growing up years (1950-1957) I was a fan of UK and UL basketball (Charlie Tyra). When some Louisville fans or maybe administrators began claiming that they were equal or superior to UK, I became very anti UL. I continue to be very negative to UL.
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catmandoo
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posted 12-24-2020 03:33 PM
cydeh, you made the right decision!
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Tiptree
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posted 12-24-2020 03:38 PM
Referring to the "all time dishonor roll", they don't call them the "dirty birds" for nothing.
It is embarrassing that UofL in in Kentucky.
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clydeh
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posted 12-24-2020 06:11 PM
catmando,
I think you are correct. At that time, UK had modern facilities compared to UL.I have a friend here in Cullman who attended UL med school many years after I attended UK. He and I joke about our animosity, but he is a well-trained dermatologist.
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catmandoo
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posted 12-24-2020 07:40 PM
Clydeh, I bet you and your dermatologist buddy have a good time bantering back and forth about UK vs Louisville. Don't let him forget UK have won the last 4 games and 37 of the last 53 games. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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clydeh
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posted 12-24-2020 10:37 PM
catmandoo,
We are good friends but we do make some comments against each other's school. The last visit I made to him was a few weeks ago, and when we pulled up into the parking lot we saw a car with a UK sticker on the bumper. When I went into the waiting room there were too many people for me to determine who was the UK fan
When the crowd subsided, I asked about the UK sticker and it belonged to a man who was several years older than me. His grandson told me that his grandfather and the dermatologist often teased each other about the Cats and the Cards
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catmandoo
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posted 12-25-2020 10:34 AM
Clydeh, the UK-Louisville is similar to the Duke-North Carolna rivalry of course being UK fans most all of us think it's bigger.
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catmandoo
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posted 12-25-2020 12:34 PM
Here is a article on the 11 most intense and bitter rivalries.
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clydeh
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posted 12-25-2020 01:30 PM
I am surprised that the Auburn/Alabama rivalry is not on the list. It is active in this state.
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MountainMafia
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posted 12-25-2020 03:26 PM
Dr Clyde:
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I am surprised that the Auburn/Alabama rivalry is not on the list. It is active in this state.
Are you thinking about football or basketball? The article refers only to basketball.
If you are thinking football I totally agree. You have to live in Alabama to comprehend just how intense the rivalry between Alabama and Auburn really is....these schools literally hate each other.
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clydeh
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posted 12-25-2020 08:21 PM
M.M.
I was not thinking at all. However, you are correct about the importance of football in the rivalry in this state.
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