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Old Norm
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posted 12-27-2015 08:30 AM
I don't know what you guys think, but I think when the season is over, Tyler Ulis is gone. I don't care if he is 5'9" or less. He is that good, IMO. I just can't see a pro team not drafting him. His handle, his basketball smarts and his outside shot will just be too much to not gamble on. Besides that, he's a natural leader.
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posted 12-27-2015 08:38 AM
I think he is a great PG who doesn't get rattled under pressure and is able to penetate and score off the dribble, despite of his stature..
He is surely capable of playing in the NBA. Will he get drafted? I'm not sure.
Those bozos in the press were bad mouthing Kentucky and saying that the guards couldn't shoot. Ulis went through a rough stretch, but he was injured. Not sure if he is still getting over the issue, but he looked 100% to me in this last game.
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posted 12-27-2015 08:53 AM
I think he is probably gone too, especially if he continues to have games like he had yesterday. He certainly is the heart and soul of our team this season, without him we are a 500 ball club. [ 12-27-2015, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: SCWC ]
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Bama Cat
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posted 12-27-2015 08:58 AM
I believe he has more of a chance at getting drafted than Skal. Ulis can do it all. Skal can do nothing. Skal just hasn't had the experience to play on the level that UK plays. If he isn't here for at least 3 years I'll be surprised.
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posted 12-27-2015 10:03 AM
If he doesnt leave it will screw up the new class as we have a great one coming in who aint sitting!!
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Trey Ball
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posted 12-27-2015 01:05 PM
I love Ulis and he may get drafted in the second round. No NBA team is going to use a 1st Round pick on a 5'8" player. The odds are way against him because of his height. I looked it up last year and I think there have been 13 players under 5'9" to ever play in the NBA for more than 1 season. The names that I remember are the following: Calvin Murphy (the best of hall of them and a Hall of Famer), Spud Webb, Nate Robinson, Mugsy Bogues, Earl Boykins, Greg Grant, Keith Jennings, and Isiah Thomas (not IU Isiah, but Isiah Thomas from Washington).
The only two current players in the NBA under 5'9" are Nate Robinson and Isiah Thomas who are both freakish athletes. Robinson has won the NBA dunk contest two or three times.
The best former comparisons for Ulis are Bogues and Boykins. They used their quickness to last in the NBA for over 10 years.
The kid has NBA speed playing at the college level which gives him an advantage, but once he is in the NBA most point guards have his speed and they are going to be 4 to 7 inches taller than Tyler.
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posted 12-27-2015 03:06 PM
His size and hustle would make him a crowd favorite.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-27-2015 04:24 PM
Guarding guys the size of Rhondo and Wall would really be Tyler's drawback.
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posted 12-27-2015 04:29 PM
I hope Tyler gets a chance to play with the big boys to see how he would do. Someone is going to draft him and we will find out just how he handles the size and speed of the best of the best.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-27-2015 04:40 PM
He'll get a shot but I'll be surprised if someone takes him in the first round!
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posted 12-27-2015 05:00 PM
Tyler is only a sophomore and has options with his future in the NBA. Cal will know pretty much where he would be drafted this season and advise him his options when the time comes. He may even stay another season if it benefits his draft chances. It's to early now and their will be plenty of time to make the best decision for him. Cal takes "good" care of his players.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-27-2015 07:55 PM
I'm sure a lot of that will depend on how many guards will be in the draft this next spring too!
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Bama Cat
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posted 12-27-2015 08:08 PM
Cal has got to push some guys out, one way or another. There may be some who want leave but are not ready, but that won't be the first time. Someone may transfer also. The only one I can say will leave for sure is Poythress. Minimally we must lose 3 more besides him. All we can hope for is that some of these guys get better by spring. But Ulis and Murray leaving would help a lot. [ 12-27-2015, 08:10 PM: Message edited by: Bama Cat ]
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m hamilton
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posted 12-27-2015 08:34 PM
Marcus Lee could very well see his stock go up as the season progresses. HIs motor is worth ALOT!
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m hamilton
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posted 12-27-2015 08:36 PM
FLoreal is currently using a Scholly and he could easily go on PArent employee with the university. That would open up another scholly!
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posted 12-27-2015 10:10 PM
Floreal definitely will go that route..
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posted 12-27-2015 10:11 PM
Lee could leave and if improves coming down the stretch it would really help his chances. [ 12-27-2015, 10:24 PM: Message edited by: catmandoo ]
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 08:44 AM
Getting stronger will help Lee too!
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posted 12-28-2015 09:23 AM
Lee has all the incentive he needs with the next class of bigs coming in, he would have to fight extra hard to find PT.
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catmandoo
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posted 12-28-2015 09:38 AM
I think he has a outside chance to be chosen in the NBA draft this year. ( second round) He is a junior and would bet he will get some good guidance on what his best for him and his chances of making it to the NBA. He definitely is in a tough position.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 09:53 AM
Each kid is different, just like WCS did the year before last, he may be enjoying himself enough and realizes he needs to get stronger, he very well may stay for his senior year!
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posted 12-28-2015 09:56 AM
Like Bama points out Lee may find it hard to get quality playing time with talent Cal has coming in next season.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 10:03 AM
THis is true but Lee's motor is out of this world!
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posted 12-28-2015 11:35 AM
Cal will definitely have some options next season
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posted 12-28-2015 07:57 PM
Fox, Gabriel, Killeya-Jones, Monk and Adebayo are all awfully good looking players coming to Kentucky.
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posted 12-28-2015 07:59 PM
We have had some good recruiting class since Cal has been here and this class will rank right up there with his best classes.
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posted 12-28-2015 08:04 PM
He has all the positions pretty much covered.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 08:05 PM
In all of my years until Coach Cal got here I never dreamed of some of the talent that he started bringing in here year in and year out!
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 08:11 PM
I think since Cal came up short on some of his recruiting for that '12-'13 team, he's beat the bushes to cover every base in recruiting. He knows in order to be the best you have to bring in the best!
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posted 12-28-2015 09:38 PM
Recruiting is what he is best at and probably the best in college basketball.
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posted 12-28-2015 09:41 PM
Cal isn't the bench coach to have only one National Championship with all the talent he has coached for so many years.
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m hamilton
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posted 12-28-2015 09:57 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, the best team in the country doesn't always win the title. IT TAKES A LOT OF LUCK TOO!
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posted 12-29-2015 05:44 PM
Lot of unlucky coachs out there. I guess when you hire a coach you have to find out how lucky they are.
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posted 12-30-2015 07:44 PM
THere's been several Coach of the Year award winners who didn't win the title!
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posted 12-30-2015 10:33 PM
Calipari was the Naismith coach of the year last year for one.
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