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Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 09-09-2012, 10:34 AM:
Arkansas is not a top ten team, without Petrino. They should not have lost that game.
Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 09-13-2012, 07:03 AM:
IMO, they were not a Top 10 team with Petrino. Arkansas has the same problem that UK has and that is they do not have a recruiting area where they are the top dog. The state of Arkansas like the state of Kentucky doesn't produce many Division 1 caliber players. That means they have to go outside the state to recruit and it cannot be done when you are trying to compete on the recruiting trail against LSU/Alabama/Auburn/Texas/Oklahmoa/etc. So you have to settle for those players that the top schools don't recruit and hope they are Elite talent (i.e. Randall Cobb) to at least make you a respectable 6-6 or 7-5 team.
Arkansas wasn't really that good last year. They got taken to the woodshed by Alabama and LSU and outside of that they had an easy schedule to get there wins and they struggled to get some of those against bad teams (i.e. Texas A&M and Ole Miss).
[ 09-13-2012, 07:05 AM: Message edited by: Trey Ball ]
Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 09-13-2012, 09:23 AM:
A interesting side bar to the Arkansas vs Louisiana-Monroe game. Kolton Browning of Louisiana Monroe tied former Kentucky quarterback Tim Couch (1997) for the record for most passes attempted (67) against Arkansas in a single game. Louisiana-Monroe broke the record from that game for the most passes attempted by a team (68).
Posted by boomdaddy (Member # 2644) on 09-15-2012, 03:11 AM:
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Originally posted by Trey Ball:
IMO, they were not a Top 10 team with Petrino. Arkansas has the same problem that UK has and that is they do not have a recruiting area where they are the top dog. The state of Arkansas like the state of Kentucky doesn't produce many Division 1 caliber players. That means they have to go outside the state to recruit and it cannot be done when you are trying to compete on the recruiting trail against LSU/Alabama/Auburn/Texas/Oklahmoa/etc. So you have to settle for those players that the top schools don't recruit and hope they are Elite talent (i.e. Randall Cobb) to at least make you a respectable 6-6 or 7-5 team.
Arkansas wasn't really that good last year. They got taken to the woodshed by Alabama and LSU and outside of that they had an easy schedule to get there wins and they struggled to get some of those against bad teams (i.e. Texas A&M and Ole Miss).
Arkansas defeated 3 teams in the top 15, last season. How many did UK defeat in the top 15, last year? Petrino is a winner. Arkansas will be in a free fall without him. Had Tom Jurich been Arkansas' AD, Petrino would still be on campus and winning games.
But, if the stars align correctly, Strong may step in and be their next coach, as long as UF doesn't fire its coach at the end of the season.
Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 09-15-2012, 08:29 AM:
We will just have to disagree. I thought College Football was extremely weak last year outside of Alabama and LSU. The rest of the teams were mediocre at best IMO.
I just don't think schools like UK and Arkansas will ever be relevant on a National Championship level because they have no recruiting base. This guy says it better than I did:
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What's wrong with the Arkansas job? It has some good things going for it, but it's not an elite position. It has a limited recruiting base. This means Arkansas has to recruit outside of its state, where it has no advantage over programs such as LSU, Alabama, Georgia, Florida and others -- not to mention new SEC threats Texas A&M and Missouri. Arkansas is not going to win many, if any, recruiting battles against the SEC's blue-chip programs, which is a problem when you play in the nation's toughest division. (Consider this: Eight SEC schools ranked in the top 25 of the 2012 ESPN recruiting class rankings, and Arkansas wasn't one of them. The Hogs never ranked higher than 18th with Petrino at the helm.) Elite coaches want to have a realistic chance of winning a championship every year.
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8367418/how-bad-things-get-arkansas-razorbacks-ncf
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