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Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 02-24-2018, 09:59 AM:

When you pay a head coach millions to coach kids then there is bound to be corruption! and when good but poor kids who only have a mom to raise them then they are so easy to take money from agents! Happens all the time imo

BUT

the issues in my view is the punishment for each school - it is not equal.

DUKE for example - Battier took money when he was in high school and it came out when he was playing his freshman year. Nothing happened to DUKE

One of DUKE's players SOLD over 70K of jewelry to a parn broker in New York ..Nothing happened to DUKE

Newton accepted 100k when Cam was in high school - NCAA said not Cams fault and nothing happend to Auburn.

Shelpy (sic) accepted money in High School - he sat out 9 games at Kansas. Nothing happened to school

Kanter his father accepted money on his behalf and he is banned for life at KY.

WV Turkish player also received money from a pro team and yet he sat out a few games and then played for WV.

NC - biggest academia fraud in history of schools for manny many years. Nothing happened

these are just from the top of my brainless head I am sure there are many more...

What do u want to bet that we vacant last year because of BAM's mother accepting money??

p.s. do you really think that a head coach does not know what his asst coaches are doing?

[ 02-24-2018, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: ukcatfannfl ]

Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 02-24-2018, 10:04 AM:

if you look at the above then strippers at a dorm doesnt sound that bad since corruption is amuke in the ncaas

Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 02-24-2018, 10:33 AM:

Ed,the Duke player was Corey Magette, not Battier if memory serves me correctly. Duke should have had to forfeit the national championship they won with him on their roster as a freshman. Duke and UNC are sacred cows when it comes to the NCAA, they write and live by their own rules, and their attitude is, the hell with the NCAA pretty much.

Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 02-24-2018, 10:38 AM:

TY Ray old age kicking in. But it sounds just like Bam doesnt it? Lets see how the two similar incidents are treated by the NCAA/.

Posted by jerseycat (Member # 9) on 02-24-2018, 10:49 AM:

Didn't the Magette thing happen before he enrolled at Duke so the NCAA could not take away games or titles? If so, same would apply to Bam I would think.

Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 02-24-2018, 11:07 AM:

it did Jersey that's why I am so interested in the Bam case. Same thing - agent/money..

Posted by SCWC (Member # 2464) on 02-24-2018, 12:26 PM:

Yes, Magette got his payment prior to enrolling at Duke and was therefore ineligible to play for them but the NCAA did not strip them of the NCAA tournament or any of the games. Similiar situation to Bam but we are UK and they are DUKE so there could be a double standard.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 02-24-2018, 12:31 PM:

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Originally posted by jerseycat:
Didn't the Magette thing happen before he enrolled at Duke so the NCAA could not take away games or titles? If so, same would apply to Bam I would think.

In every other case it didn't matter, see Fab Fab. Chris Weber and company were all paid by the same Ed Piggy Martin that Maggette was paid by. Michigan had to take down banners and Duke didn't.

Also look at Memphis, Rose took the ACT prior to entering Memphis. NCAA CLEARED him to play and then ruled him ineligible after the season.

Posted by Trey Ball (Member # 332) on 02-24-2018, 12:38 PM:

On UNC, what they technically did the NCAA has no jurisdiction over and the school and their lawyers knew that with 100% fact. The NCAA only governs over Athletics and not the Academic Program Requirements for a degree that a school may have to gain a degree (i.e. getting a Business Degree from Ball State is much different than getting a Business Degree from Harvard).

So the University of North Carolina, intentionally set up the requirements to be lax to get the African American Studies degree and opens it to all students. No attendance requirements, no test requirements, and really no grading requirements to get the degree. Many regular "students" basically knew all they had to do was pay tuition and they could get a coveted UNC degree to help them get placed in the work place without doing anything.

Posted by ukcatfannfl (Member # 1425) on 02-24-2018, 01:07 PM:

Tks all - those reply's pretty much seals our fate with the Bam thing, it appears!

Posted by Old Norm (Member # 1482) on 02-24-2018, 02:55 PM:

But you can bet your ass nothing derogatory will happen to NCAA's pets.

Posted by blue hoot (Member # 398) on 02-25-2018, 02:29 AM:

quote:
Originally posted by Trey Ball:

So the University of North Carolina, intentionally set up the requirements to be lax to get the African American Studies degree and opens it to all students. No attendance requirements, no test requirements, and really no grading requirements to get the degree. Many regular "students" basically knew all they had to do was pay tuition and they could get a coveted UNC degree to help them get placed in the work place without doing anything.

That is exactly right, couldn't agree with you more. Well said!