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Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-20-2009, 10:01 AM:

Good to see Davis suupporting Calipari and putting Knight in his place. This is what he had to say.

"First of all, Bob Knight did not get his facts quite correct. UMass nor Memphis went on probation nor was John Calipari implicated in either of those cases. So I think he's being a little unfair to Calipari.

"His broader point which he expanded on today is that he feels like whenever a school gets in trouble, it's the coach that should be punished, as opposed to the school he leaves behind. He cited Kelvin Sampson as an example of someone who never should have gotten hired at Indiana.

"But let me just say this to Coach Knight, my fellow member of the media, by the way Bob, welcome to the media, is that while Knight never ran afoul of the NCAA to his credit, he is not a great messenger to be talking about the behavior of coaches. So now that he is commenting on these things, I'd like to see him own up to some of the things he did over the course of his career. Be as tough on Bob Knight as you were this week on John Calipari."

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Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-20-2009, 10:05 AM:

I was surprised to see Seth Davis saying anything good about Kentucky. This goes a long way in changing our relationship with Davis...

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 12-20-2009, 01:29 PM:

He's trying to put CBS vs ESPN on the map of all sports world!

Posted by CATTRACKER (Member # 55) on 12-20-2009, 02:20 PM:

Knight is just a carbon copy of Woody Hayes---always has been. You gotta John Wooden credit. You NEVER saw him act this way. He was a gentleman and a great coach.

Knight doesn't like his record vs UK---all-time. By my count UK 18 wins/IU 15 wins....under Knight's career at IU.
UK is 7-2 over IU since Knight left.
UK owns the all-time series: 30 WINS/23 LOSSES....and 6 of IU's wins came from 1924-1942. [Big Grin]

1924
Twice in 1926
1928
1940
1942

[ 12-20-2009, 02:24 PM: Message edited by: CATTRACKER ]

Posted by bas2k3 (Member # 3015) on 12-21-2009, 03:19 AM:

Very nice to see those comments from Davis.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-21-2009, 08:19 AM:

Yes it was bas, makes you have to think twice about Davis.

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 12-21-2009, 08:25 AM:

No, Davis is still a slimey weasel. Always has been, always will be.

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-21-2009, 08:36 AM:

Paul you have little hate in your heart towards Davis. What would he have to do for your forgivness of the past? [Wink]

Posted by PaulCat (Member # 513) on 12-21-2009, 08:50 AM:

It's not hate, it's just the fact that he's a little weasel. [Big Grin]

He's always taking shots at someone. In this case, did he really say something good about UK, or just something bad about Knight?

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-21-2009, 09:28 AM:

Makes good sense especially the part about the little weasel. [Smile]

Posted by m hamilton (Member # 127) on 12-21-2009, 09:59 AM:

Wasn't he a Dukie? If so that's enough reason to be a slimey weasel!

Posted by lumafia (Member # 3118) on 12-21-2009, 11:45 AM:

Here's a brief history of the guy throwing stones.
You'll have to forgive the bad language in the article, but you can't have quotes from Knight without the occassional bad word.

In 1976, Knight pulled guard Jim Wisman off the court by his jersey

In 1979, Knight was arrested for assaulting a police officer during the Pan American Games in Puerto Rico. Knight was angry that a practice gymnasium was not opened to his team, which went on to a 9-0 record in the tournament. Knight was later convicted in absentia in a Puerto Rican court. However, the charges were later dropped when Indiana Governor Otis Bowen refused to cooperate in extraditing Knight to the island commonwealth.

In 1985, Knight threw a chair across the court to protest a referee's call during a game against the rival Purdue Boilermakers.

Women's groups nationwide were outraged by Knight's comments during an April, 1988 interview with Connie Chung in which he said, "I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it." Knight's comment was in reference to an Indiana basketball game in which he felt the referees were making poor calls against the Hoosiers. Knight claimed he asked Chung not to use the comment in the story immediately after saying it. Knight claimed Chung said it would not be used, while Chung denied ever agreeing to that. A crowd of about 300 protested Knight's comments on the Indiana University campus.

In 1992 Knight feigned whipping a black player, Calbert Cheaney, an incident which made national headlines and resulted in protests by civil rights leaders. Supporters of Knight assert that several white players had received similar treatment, but this instance was the only widely reported incident. Knight apologized for the incident; however Cheaney later revealed that the incident was staged for the benefit of the press after Knight's players tired of being repeatedly asked about how tough it was to play for Bob Knight. The whip, in fact, was a gift from his players. Cheaney feigned whipping Knight with a towel as a response to this.

Knight allegedly kicked his own son, Pat Knight, during a 1993 game (Knight claims he actually kicked a chair).

Knight was shown berating a NCAA university volunteer at a 1998 news conference. The volunteer informed the press that Knight would not be attending the press conference, when he was actually only running a few minutes late and had planned on attending per NCAA rules. Knight was shown saying: "You've only got two people that are going to tell you I'm not going to be here. One is our SID (Sports Information Director), and the other is me. Who the hell told you I wasn't going to be here? I'd like to know. Do you have any idea who it was?...Who?...They were from Indiana, right?... No, they weren't from Indiana, and you didn't get it from anybody from Indiana, did you? ... No, I -- I'll handle this the way I want to handle it now that I'm here...You ****ed it up to begin with! Now just sit there or leave, I don't give **** what you do!" Turning back to the press, he added, "Now back to the game."

Indiana University was fined $10,000 in 1999 for Knight's derogatory remarks about a referee.

In 1999, an Indiana University secretary accused Knight of throwing a potted plant at her

In 1999, Assistant coach Ron Felling claimed Knight threw him off a chair and punched him in the chest after an eavesdropping Knight overheard him criticizing his program and methods on the telephone. (Felling allegedly said "Knight's ranting and raving ... takes the fun out of winning"). Felling sued Knight for assault and received an out-of-court settlement of $35,000 from IU. Many feel it was Felling who precipitated Knight's 2000 firing by Indiana University president Myles Brand by leaking a video of a practice session to the media in which Knight appears to strike and hold the throat of player Neil Reed.

In 1999, Knight accidentally shot long time friend Thomas Mikunda in the back and shoulder with a 20 gauge shotgun while shooting grouse. Two years later Mikunda sued Knight, claiming Knight coerced him into lying to investigators. The suit was settled out of court soon after. Knight was cited for failing to report a hunting accident and hunting without a nonresident small game license. He pleaded no contest to each count.

In February 2004, Knight again made national headlines for a "verbal dust up" with then Texas Tech University Chancellor David Smith at a Lubbock supermarket.

In March 2006, a student's heckling at Baylor University resulted in Knight having to be restrained by a police officer. The incident, though, was not severe enough to warrant any action from the Big 12 Conference.

On November 13, 2006, Knight was shown allegedly hitting player Michael Prince under the chin to get him to make eye contact. Although Knight didn't comment on the incident afterwards and as of yet hasn't done so, Prince, his parents, and Texas Tech athletic director Gerald Myers insisted that Knight did nothing wrong and that he merely lifted Prince's chin and told him "Hold your head up and don't worry about mistakes. Just play the game." Prince commented, "He was trying to teach me and I had my head down so he raised my chin up. He was telling me to go out there and don't be afraid to make mistakes. He said I was being too hard on myself."

It's amazing to me that this man knows how to pronounce the word "integrity".

[ 12-21-2009, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: lumafia ]

Posted by catmandoo (Member # 1284) on 12-21-2009, 11:57 AM:

Good info lumafia, Knight is a coach that should have got the ax a long time ago however in our society when you win it hardley makes a differance what you do and what kind of person you are.