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Author Topic: Two Americas, Two Economies Tiptree Administrator Member # 844 posted 10-10-2019 07:59 PM                     I will post this without initial comment, but I welcome y'alls: https://www.wsj.com/graphics/red-economy-blue-economy/?shareToken=st28656482f4664aa1ab6d8a83ab412323&mod=djmc_pkt_evgrn -------------------- Tiptree “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson Posts: 13601 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged handycat Player Member # 2323 posted 10-11-2019 11:13 AM                     Well Tip, after reading this twice. I’ve come to the following conclusion. I ain’t smart enough to conclude nothing. Posts: 5383 | From: decatur ill. | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged Jarcat Player Member # 95 posted 10-11-2019 01:12 PM                     I'm with you, Handy. I guess I's just an ignoramoose. -------------------- The truth is out there Posts: 3014 | From: Lexington, KY | Registered: Sep 1999  |  IP: Logged MountainMafia Player Member # 2066 posted 10-11-2019 03:25 PM                    This kinda sums it up for me: Turn on cc Link -------------------- "It's amazing what you can accomplish when nobody cares who gets the credit"....Tubby Smith after winning 1998 National Title. Posts: 4694 | From: Alabama | Registered: Aug 2003  |  IP: Logged CatFanInYankeeville Player Member # 2025 posted 10-14-2019 09:26 AM                    I agree with one of the last slides, 2 people from very different backgrounds see the same problem differently. I'm also curious to know whether the districts they refer to are just boundaries or are they taking into account the actual residents within those boundaries. For example, we all are aware that democrats typically control the inner cities and more urban areas. Now, district-speaking, those areas have giant corporations and multi million dollar businesses. The people that work in those fields, though, rarely live in the same district. The residents of those districts are much more often low income or dependent upon the government for aid. If nothing else, the slide show depicts a separation between the blues and reds, which I think we can all agree has worsened over the last decade or so. -------------------- “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian!” Henry Ford Posts: 5563 | From: Eddyville at heart, Chicago in life | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged GA Cat Administrator Member # 642 posted 10-16-2019 03:53 PM                     The question is how do they determine GDP of a district. Is the massive contributions of corporations headquartered in Democratically controlled cities by largely run by Republicans who do not life in those cities being credited to Democrats? Is the college degree status only based on those that live in those districts or those that work in those districts? In Atlanta, the Republicans who work in and and run many of the large corporations inside the city, do not live in the city. I would have to see a much deeper dive to draw any conclusions other than what we already know. The political divide of our population is deep. -------------------- Born Blue, Always Blue Kentucky Blue, that is... Posts: 2238 | From: Atlanta, GA, USA | Registered: Jul 2000  |  IP: Logged Tiptree Administrator Member # 844 posted 10-16-2019 06:00 PM                     The basic unit of measure is congressional districts, so it is graphically representing data by district, blue for those that voted for a Democrat congressperson and red for those that voted for a Republican. GDP is 'total value of goods and services produced', so that would be an economic measure based upon sales data from within the district that is being discussed, regardless of where the employees live. Conversely, income and education levels would be in the district that they are registered to vote in -- regardless of where they worked. The problem is that America is increasingly urban... the population is overwhelmingly located in cities. We Republicans see a map that shows the voting results, and it has a LOT of red on it. But that is misleading, because the population concentration is not evenly spread out. To see just how jarringly different the traditional voting results maps look from a population-based map, check out this infographic... be sure you scroll down to the bottom. https://www.core77.com/posts/90771/A-Great-Example-of-Better-Data-Visualization-This-Voting-Map-GIF?utm_medium=10today.media.20191015.436.1&utm_source=email&utm_content=article&utm _campaign=10-for-today---4.0-styling -------------------- Tiptree “If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.” Thomas Jefferson Posts: 13601 | From: Terre Haute, IN | Registered: Sep 2000  |  IP: Logged handycat Player Member # 2323 posted 10-16-2019 06:23 PM                     Tip, yeah that’s what I thought. Posts: 5383 | From: decatur ill. | Registered: Feb 2005  |  IP: Logged viperz Player Member # 289 posted 10-21-2019 02:30 PM                    this map is easier for me to understand https://xkcd.com/1939/ Amazing how much empty land there is out west Posts: 4621 | From: Tampa, Florida | Registered: Nov 1999  |  IP: Logged CatFanInYankeeville Player Member # 2025 posted 10-23-2019 09:31 AM                    Thanks, viperz, that map does help show the population density in a much easier to visualize format. I'm with you, man, those western states are hardly touched. Massive amounts of sparsely populated land. -------------------- “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian!” Henry Ford Posts: 5563 | From: Eddyville at heart, Chicago in life | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged Old Norm Administrator Member # 1482 posted 10-23-2019 10:15 AM                     Spend 4 years in Grand Forks, North Dakota, and you can easily understand that place being sparsely populated. Eastern half of state is as flat as a table top, very few trees, and colder than a witches tit, with incessant wind. I've seen the wind chill at -95. 40 below and 40 mph wind. Nothing to slow the north wind but a single strand barbed wire fence. Hot in the 2 month summer and mosquitos as thick as flies on a possum carcass. -------------------- Pray For Our Country! Posts: 36266 | From: Western KY | Registered: Aug 2001  |  IP: Logged CatFanInYankeeville Player Member # 2025 posted 10-24-2019 08:19 AM                    Sheesh Norm you really are a ray of sunshine about that state! -------------------- “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him; better take a closer look at the American Indian!” Henry Ford Posts: 5563 | From: Eddyville at heart, Chicago in life | Registered: Mar 2003  |  IP: Logged

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