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SCWC
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posted 03-22-2022 03:46 PM      Profile for SCWC     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Very revealing article on KSR about Ky players that were underutilized while playing at KY..

However, folks in the NBA community might be more critical regarding the scheme at Kentucky. Givony logged on Twitter after Kentucky’s loss in the NCAA Tournament to No. 15 seed Saint Peter’s and roasted John Calipari’s clogged paint offense. Folks in NBA circles are doing the same according to the draft scout.

“Were Washington’s weaknesses similarly accentuated by the extreme lack of shooting and spacing surrounding him,” asks Givony. “And will being placed in a more modern offensive system not built around post-ups, offensive rebounds and mid-range jumpers help solve some of the issues he faced this season with his struggles beating opponents off the dribble and finishing in traffic?”

“Tyrese Maxey, Devin Booker, Tyler Herro, Keldon Johnson, Hamidou Diallo, Immanuel Quickley, Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Brandon Boston Jr. and others all ended up being under-drafted after looking vastly more comfortable in the NBA than they did in college, which has caused scouts to openly discuss grading future Kentucky prospects on a curve, operating under the assumption that they simply won’t be used to their full potential in college.”

That is a tough look for the Kentucky basketball program. No longer are the Wildcats seen as ahead of the curve or as a program that does the best job of getting prospects ready for the next level. The tape evaluations for players in Kentucky’s system seems to not be holding much value because the style of play is different than what others are running in the modern basketball world.

The fact of the matter is — similar to Tyrese Maxey — TyTy Washington was a lead guard as a high school prospect and excelled at making decisions with the basketball. At Kentucky, Calipari asked the star to turn into a two-guard who had to learn to play off the ball. Despite a heavy amount of success at playing point when Sahvir Wheeler was out of the lineup, the coaching staff never truly gave Washington a chance to run the show.


I know I have said many times that Cal is running 20th century offense and defense in the 21st century. He does not design defense to guard the three point shot or have an offense that is designed to shoot it.

[ 03-22-2022, 03:48 PM: Message edited by: SCWC ]

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ukman
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posted 03-22-2022 07:26 PM      Profile for ukman        Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
That's a very bad article for Cal, and I am sure opposing teams are pointing these things out to recruits. And it looks to be very, very true. If Cal doesn't change we are in for some tough years, unless we get AD type of players. I'm sure this is a big hit to ego, but hopefully he stops being blind to the reality.
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posted 03-22-2022 09:45 PM      Profile for Bama Cat   Email Bama Cat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
There's not much doubt that we will be seeing the program go downhill now. Could the NBA be wrong or is Cal wrong?? I see the end to a great program on the horizon. If Cal has another year here he better make some changes or he might not get 2 more years here. Just because he has 3 top players signed to play here doesn't mean they will with the transfer portal available.
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posted 03-22-2022 10:53 PM      Profile for ukcatfannfl   Email ukcatfannfl   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
From what I understand unless u have 42 38 and 28 million for the next 3 yrs and a little less for the years thereafter, he will be here until he decides to leave

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m hamilton
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posted 03-23-2022 05:52 AM      Profile for m hamilton   Email m hamilton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Cal has a lifetime contract with a buyout this year of $52M. Then you subtract $6M/yr for the next 8 years.

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posted 03-23-2022 07:18 AM      Profile for PaulCat     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Barnhart is an idiot for that one. Not because it's Cal, but because no coach should have a contract like that.

UK was Cal's retirement job - he never had plans to leave here. They could've made him take a pay cut and he wasn't going anywhere.

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m hamilton
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posted 03-23-2022 08:27 AM      Profile for m hamilton   Email m hamilton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
They were falling in line with what dUKe did with K!

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The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!

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posted 03-23-2022 12:36 PM      Profile for Bama Cat   Email Bama Cat   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Yeah, looks like we had at least one idiot....or more involved. But in the end it won't be the one(s) who made that bad decision to suffer, except maybe lose their jobs too. It will be UK and the BBN who will suffer, for who knows how many years. I'ts a shame we hire people who make the god awfulless decisions that many people have to suffer over. That article I read about there being a lot of kids in the portal calling Cal wanting to transfer to UK is a large bunch of crap. These kids aren't dummies. They can see what Cal is producing. Unless they have the idea he can get them to the NBA while their previous coach could not, they must be hoping in one hand and crapping in the other and seeing which one fills up first.
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m hamilton
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posted 03-23-2022 02:19 PM      Profile for m hamilton   Email m hamilton   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
What about NIL?
Did you ever think what some of these guys that could transfer into Lexington could make while still in college? KY is one of those programs where they'll get a car, or jewelry, T-shirts etc!

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The potus is planning 1st major tax hike since '93 in next economic package!
I still can't believe some people believed that LIAR!!!

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