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ukman
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posted 03-17-2022 09:49 PM
and doesn't deserve 9 million let alone 2 million. Tis loss is on him. Yes he didn't miss feee throws but he needs to send some money to Holloway for the coaching clinic he just gave Cal. Totally embarrassing, and typifies what Cal has done. Alot of hope, almost every year, and no follow through. Call a timeout at the end of freaking regulation Cal. Anyone can defend Cal all they want right now, and that's their right, but I don't know how the heck anyone can continue to say Cal is a good game coach. I have said it many times before, and I'll say it right now; UK has won many many games in spite to the coaching. Look at the talent that has gone through here during his time. No way that 1 championship in his time should be acceptable. Villanova is going for their 3 one in 10 years. anyone think they have had more talent than UK? Heck no! I know there is some luck involved, but Cal is a disappointment overall in my mind. This sucks so bad, and this team should in no way be out of this tournament. Cal has failed this team, and the fans this year.
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posted 03-17-2022 09:51 PM
Where is Tubby when you need him.
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ukman
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posted 03-17-2022 09:56 PM
How the heck do you just stick with the same guys that are sucking it up. Try Hopkins, or Allen. Didn't Hopkins save our buts in a similar situation against LSU? It wasn't that long ago so how did Cal forget about that. Cal says you have to make him have to keep you in the game. did Hopkins not earn playing time? He barely got any the rest of the season. Not saying we would have won if Hopkins played, but who knows? Certainly not us because our coach just sucked as bad as most of his players. W
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PaulCat
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posted 03-17-2022 10:06 PM
Tonight was a "team" playing a bunch of one-on-one NBA wannabe's. Cal will be happy when some of these players have their name called on draft night and that's good enough for him. Bottom line is Cal just ain't a good coach. He goes as far as his best player can take him. There's no team play or any type of "team" system with this program. Just one-on-one garbage.
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ukman
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posted 03-17-2022 10:11 PM
Exactly. But when you say that people tend to say "look at his 800 victories." That's alot of wins, and he can recruit, and seems to develop guys for the NBA; but he sure can't get the most out of his teams, or coach them up. He seems to have done it when he was at UMass, but once he started to get all the talent he forgot. And he himself said back in the 2010's that "he counts on his 5 being better than your 5." And I always remember in 2015 final four when Wisconsin said they had watched about 6 different games on UK, and Cal said he they hadn't watched any on Wisconsin; and it sure showed.
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Bama Cat
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posted 03-17-2022 10:16 PM
Oh, there was a lot of team play at times this year but it never endures. A little tough defense and these guys choke. I am now believing that playing al those directional schools at the beginning of the year is what causes his teams to be like this at the end of the year. They get the big head. And guys like Wheeler mad so many bad decisions tonight they outnumbered the good decisions. Washington did not look like an NBA player either with some of his goof ups. I don't know why Skyy doesn't come back after watching these guys. I hope Cal enjoys hearing his lone player, Oscar hear his name called on draft night.
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ukman
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posted 03-17-2022 10:24 PM
I don't think it just on that. We certainly played enough quality teams this year. This is 100% on the coaching. Plain and simple. I don't know how anyone can think any differently. He let his team down, and he has let the fans down. And he probably will make excuses for the loss.
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ukman
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posted 03-17-2022 10:25 PM
I just heard him say "I wish I had better answers." I think we all wish he some better answers. I feel so bad for Oscar.
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PaulCat
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posted 03-18-2022 01:09 AM
Cal emphasized two things during the post-game press conference: 1) lack of tournament experience, and 2) players not playing free and loose.
Question - how much tournament experience did St. Peters have?
We've seen it for many years now - it's hard to play free and loose when you're being micromanaged the entire game by an obnoxious coach yelling on the sidelines during each possession and yanking a guy out the game for a single mistake. Cal, if you want your players to play free and loose then sit your @ss down and shut your mouth and coach them during a timeout instead of embarrassing them in front of 20,000 fans and a national TV audience.
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m hamilton
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posted 03-18-2022 06:25 AM
I read all of these posts and never do I see a name to replace him with.
I'm not a Cal apologist, but he, in the 11 possessions we had in overtime, didn't miss 5/6 at the FT line, or turn the ball over .
We missed 12 free throws in last night's game!!! Everyone sitting here reading this knows during tourney time when you leave points on the FT line you're setting yourself up for disaster!
Disaster happened last night!
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ukman
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posted 03-18-2022 06:43 AM
True Hamilton. However, we would have won despite his terrible coaching effort. Or maybe we just wouldn't have needed it. However, his lack of game coaching was on full display last night and he was exposed. Just a terrible example of in game coaching by Cal. Better coaching and I bet we win this game by double digits.
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handycat
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posted 03-18-2022 07:03 AM
WOW. Just WOW!
I agree with Mark. Who do you guys want? That’s not a rhetorical question. I’m really curious.
Cal has won more NCAA tournament games than any active coach. I’m counting Ratface gone and I’m too upset about last night’s game to look it up but I believe that is correct.
Life goes on. I’ll look forward to UK football season and not waste my time trying to promote a coaching change or the way Cal coaches. Ain’t going to happen.
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ukman
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posted 03-18-2022 11:27 AM
Jay Wright, Chris Beard, Scott Drew, Mark Pope, Kenny Payne. And I'm sure there are other head coaches, and some assistants out there that could be a great coach. If we had another coach(Jay Wright), with the same talent over the years we would have 2-3 championships in the last 12 years, easy. Heck, last night showed that Hasheem Holloway could take Uk's players, and play against Cal with the same players, and Holloway would win.
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PaulCat
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posted 03-18-2022 12:48 PM
"Who do you want" doesn't really matter. At some point in time Cal will no longer be here - just like with Pitino, Tubby, etc. He's not gonna live forever. UK is bigger than John Calipari.
Jim Boeheim has more tournament wins than Cal, and Bill Self will probably catch him in the next few years (he's currently 6 wins behind Cal).
Cal's UK resume includes:
- a first round loss in the NIT
- a losing season (9-16)
- missed the NCAA tournament twice
- lost in the first round of the NCAA as a #2 seed
- turned this school into an NBA minor league
In the last seven seasons, Cal's NCAA tournament record is 9-5. At some point enough is enough.
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posted 03-18-2022 01:07 PM
True Paul, Boehiam does have more wins in 14 more NCAA appearances and a winning percentage which is considerably less. Would you want him?
IMO, Bill Self is a great coach that we have no chance of getting. If by some miracle we could sign Self, I would be all in on him.
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ukman
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posted 03-18-2022 01:30 PM
Don't want Boeheim, but is Boeheim really a worse game coach than Cal? I don't think so. Cal is bottom of the barrel when it comes to game coaching and preparation, always has been. I would take any of the guys I listed above over Cal as a coach, and many others. He used to be able to recruit, but when he doesn't get the best of the best we have no chance. And even when we have had it he didn't make the most of it. If you wanted to go back and watch every game of the 2012 season you would see that team won many, many games in spite of Cal's poor coaching. He almost gave away the final by slowing down the pace and having us take a forced shot after forced shot with 5 seconds or less on the shot clock. And I have felt this way since day season 1. You know that loaded team we had that fell short because Cal had no idea how to attack a 1-3-1 zone, and had no idea what West Virginia might do against us. I LOVE UK basketball. Have been a fan since the 70's as a little kid, but I have never been, and will never be, a fan of Coach Cal.
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posted 03-18-2022 01:58 PM
Ukman, we all have our opinions and I respect yours. I just disagree with it.
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m hamilton
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posted 03-18-2022 02:14 PM
Someone tell me, because I don't know how it works, how do you get rid of a coach with a lifetime contract?
Remember, whoever you eventually replace him with is going to face the same pressure cooker that he does!
Every coach is the greatest as long as they are winning! Surely we remember BCG!?!?!
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posted 03-18-2022 03:03 PM
I think Calipari needs to go. We are no longer the king of the SEC. He gets all this talent and does nothing with them, in addition, he gets a gift from the transfer portal, and he's still terrible. Who what of thought UK has become a football school. Calipari is so overrated in so many ways. I bet Matt McMahon and his Racers could've beat him. He always brags about how many of his players get drafted and most 5-star players can get to the NBA regardless of what school they go to. Sometimes I think Calipari makes his players worse IMO.
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posted 03-18-2022 04:43 PM
I agree with UKMAN, Bama.Cat, PaulCat, and blue hoot. I’ll take Anyone who can coach a lick, and who is a good strategist to replace him. I don’t care if it takes a couple years to get back on our feet, I just want him gone. He can move to his newly bought house in Nashville and coach Belmont.
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Bama Cat
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posted 03-18-2022 07:48 PM
All I can add to that is he has too many philosophies about basketball that I disagree with that I have run out of excuses and just being satisfied with having a good team that doesn't win anything. It's been a long 3 years since we were very competitive with the top teams. Like I said, I have no interest in watching a bb game now that we blew our chances twice in tourneys this year. How much more good fortune should we have and not be able to take advantage of it?? ![[Confused]](confused.gif) ![[Mad]](mad.gif)
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posted 03-18-2022 08:04 PM
Look at the players who have stayed more than one year and ask yourself, “Did they improve every year.” I would argue that there is very little, if any, improvement (Brooks, Allen, Ware). I’ve supported Cal as long as I can. It’s time for change (either he changes his offensive and coaching schemes) or retires/quits. The last several season results are not worth 8 or 9 million a year. JMO
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