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handycat
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posted 06-08-2018 12:01 PM
I'm nervous about Trump's policy on tariffs but I'm smart enough to realize I know very little about this. For now I'm willing to trust him.
I'm pissed about him wanting to let Russia back in the club when all other members seem to be opposed. Why should we reward them for their continued terrible behavior?
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Tiptree
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posted 06-08-2018 01:09 PM
On one hand, there is some merit to the old adage "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer", but I also agree that Russia's behavior needs to change dramatically before being invited into the Cool Kids group.
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posted 06-09-2018 08:10 PM
Bad guess on my part. Looks like it will be G6.
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MountainMafia
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posted 06-10-2018 08:29 AM
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On one hand, there is some merit to the old adage "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer",
The enemies that Trump is keeping "closer" is quite clear....who are the friends he is keeping "close"?
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Old Norm
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posted 06-10-2018 09:40 AM
Geez! Give it a rest. One supposedly conservative idiot is even speculating that the reason Melania Trump has been out of sight for a while is, the president has beat the crap out of her! For God's sake! She just had major kidney surgery. Your smart assed comment had absolutely zero to do with the subject at hand.
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MountainMafia
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posted 06-10-2018 01:50 PM
Ok Norm, after re-reading my comment I can see where some might take it that way....wasn't intended that way, but I will give you that, and sincerely apologize to anyone offended.
Because I prefer keeping my comments short they can come across somewhat pointed at times. But I can't recall a single post where I have insulted, name-called, disrespected or belittled another poster...can you?
I believe I will give it a rest Norm....because, quite frankly, I'm a little tired of every time I make a comment it is "playing stupid", "baiting", "being sarcastic" or "smart assed".
You've got your echo chamber Norm.......
Congratulations!
Just to clarify....I wasn't including Tiptree and handycat
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posted 06-11-2018 06:42 AM
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The enemies that Trump is keeping "closer" is quite clear....who are the friends he is keeping "close"? quote:
If that remark wasn't made for a reaction like Norm made, I don't know what is. MM, you are famous for your short snippets on topics and almost all of them are made to get under the skin of those who take opposing views to yours. It is one thing to debate, another to shoot darts at those who are moderate to conservative in their think process.
I notice you edited your post from early yesterday to exclude Handycat and Tiptree so apparently you have no ax to grind with anyone but Norm who certainly does have the respect of all who have known him for many years. And by that statement, I don't mean we are members of his AMEN choir.
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ukcatfannfl
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posted 06-11-2018 08:00 AM
"I make a comment it is "playing stupid", "baiting", "being sarcastic" or "smart assed"."
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handycat
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posted 06-11-2018 09:57 AM
By the tone of mm's last post, I suspect we will lose him around here, at least for a while. I will miss him if that happens. The Cats Domain is overwhelming conservative, it just depends to what degree. It seems to me that it runs from the alt right to moderates and everything in between but IMO, MM is the only liberal who has the balls to post in this section. Debate among conservatives alone is pretty boring.
I can honestly say that I consider many on here friends and that includes MM even if he is a flaming liberal.
But hey MM, there are a few on here that consider me a flaming liberal because of my dislike of Trump. I've been called worse.
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MountainMafia
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posted 06-11-2018 10:03 AM
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If that remark wasn't made for a reaction like Norm made, I don't know what is
Nope. I've said so and apologized to anyone offended...nothing else I can say.
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It is one thing to debate, another to shoot darts
You mean like this?
"MM, do you really believe those sources????? If you do, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would love to sell you".
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I notice you edited your post from early yesterday to exclude Handycat and Tiptree so apparently you have no ax to grind with anyone but Norm
I don't have an axe to grind with Norm or anyone else. I don't like Trump and I don't trust Trump...never have. Trump is my President as well as yours and I have as much right to criticize him as you do to phrase him...it's called America.
Tiptree and handycat have openly said they support most of Trump's policies, as most everyone else has. The difference is they will also speak their conscious...dignity, honor and respectful behavior in our leaders is important to them. Unfortunately, I don't see much of that from other members when it comes to Trump.
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"I make a comment it is "playing stupid", "baiting", "being sarcastic" or "smart assed"."
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With all due respect Ed....you don't have a lot of wiggle room here.
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posted 06-11-2018 10:14 AM
I make a comment it is "playing stupid", "baiting", "being sarcastic" or "smart assed"."
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With all due respect Ed....you don't have a lot of wiggle room here.
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maybe so but mine are "in response"to yours "starting something".
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handycat
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posted 06-11-2018 10:33 AM
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Tiptree and handycat have openly said they support most of Trump's policies, as most everyone else has. The difference is they will also speak their conscious...dignity, honor and respectful behavior in our leaders is important to them. Unfortunately, I don't see much of that from other members when it comes to Trump.
MM, in all fairness, I've seen other posters criticize Trump as well. Norm and SCWC come to mind but I believe there are others.
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posted 06-11-2018 10:38 AM
I have openly stated here, and in other places, that I think the president is an arrogant asshole and could never be a "friend" with him, but I still love the job he is doing. In my opinion, he has accomplished more than the last three presidents combined, and that includes "W". MM, you are welcome here by me. Please state your opinions any time you like, just tamp down the barbs and digs, just to get some of us to react. In case you were not aware, I have two children that are further to the left than you seem to be, and a third that voted for Mr Obama twice. I still love all three with all my heart, and would take a bullet for them. For that matter, I would take one for your right to state your opinion. I am a firm believer in our Constitution … ALL of it.
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MountainMafia
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posted 06-11-2018 10:44 AM
My apologies to everyone...didn't realize I was that bad...I'll do better.
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posted 06-11-2018 12:23 PM
I am with Norm, consider Trump a pompous butt head but I do like the things he has initiated since being elected. I will never like him as a person, think he thinks he is the most intelligent man in the world which we all know he is not. I will not watch him make any kind of speech on TV and do hope the republican party can put up a good candidate to run against him in 2020. When the GOP field started with something like sixteen, Trump was my last choice and as I have stated more than once, I drove to the polls twice only to come back home and not vote. On the third time I did register and pull the lever for Trump but it was obvious I still had reservations. There is no doubt in my mind that he is putting America first, something we have needed in a mighty long time.
I honestly think people like Robert DeNiro and his F Trump at the awards ceremony last night was way out of line and could not believe the hollywood crowd gave him a standing ovation for it. Even Bill Maher on HBO is hoping we have a recession to slow down our booming economy so Trump will not be electable the next time around and publically stated that even if Trump lost, he did not think he had any intentions of leaving the White House. That kind of talk is not good for our country and whether the hollywood crowd know it, people like DeNiro is making Trump even more popular with the working people of our great country
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posted 06-11-2018 12:32 PM
"There is no doubt in my mind that he is putting America first, something we have needed in a mighty long time."
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Ray exactly my thought. We as mere mortals really never "know" the President. We can only hope that he does the right things. If you have time, pls read my post ref obama/trump as it summarizes the stark difference between the two men..
Trump is at least doing what he was elected to do unlike other politicians be it they Dems or Reps. He is richer than them and doesn't have to do the bidding of lobbyists!
I'll take a rich business man who has the interest of the country first over a Hillary type who has her own personal interests over the country!
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posted 06-11-2018 04:36 PM
[QUOTE] [Trump is at least doing what he was elected to do unlike other politicians be it they Dems or Reps. He is richer than them and doesn't have to do the bidding of lobbyists!
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You're absolutely right,he is filthy rich and doesn't need the money. I've actually found it humorous in past threads that people talk about his generosity and even donating his salary to the VA. When you compare his net worth with mine I'm much more generous as I threw a $10 bill in the the Salvation Army kettle last Christmas.
I personally believe now for Trump it's all about his legacy. He has achieved power and a vast fortune by any means possible and wants to leave his mark on history.
I think he has handled N Korea wonderfully well to this point. My only fear now is that he will soften his tough stance with them to so that he "might" be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, something he has openly mentioned. In his egotistical mind that would seal his legacy as the greatest president in history. For that matter, that would do it for the very few "true" Trump supporters that have not already awarded him that honor.
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posted 06-11-2018 08:51 PM
What if they gave the NPP to Kim instead? I mean, this murderous thug is getting rock star treatment in Singapore.
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posted 06-11-2018 10:09 PM
Who really gives a rats assss who gets an award? Give it to Rodman for all I care... Heck Obama got one for doing nothing! ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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posted 06-12-2018 03:57 AM
And Rodman was crying, saying his buddy Kim wanted to talk 5 years ago but Obama would not sit down with him. Poor Rodman, Poor Kim. Nothing might ever come of this meeting between Trump and Kim but hopefully something will eventually. I could care less about the Nobel Peace prize, that is never given to anyone who deserves it, except Sister Theresa once.
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posted 06-12-2018 07:18 AM
We all agree, we don't care who gets the NPP. Trump obviously doesn't feel as we do or why keep bringing it up?
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posted 06-12-2018 07:27 AM
No doubt Handy Trump loves the lime light. Personally I dont care about that either. Only results count in my book and he is doing things no other President could and would do whether that person be dem or rep.. Surely we can all agree on that?
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posted 06-12-2018 09:05 AM
Ukcatfan, I agree he has done an outstanding job to this point and believe it or not, I'm rooting for that to continue.
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posted 06-12-2018 11:53 AM
Things are great for now and hope they continue, but the US is not alone...this is a global phenomenon. Virtually every major economy is experiencing record growth and historically low unemployment...as goes the US so goes the world. We need to take advantage while it last because all things come to an end...it's just a matter of when and how.
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