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Topic: Poor guard play and terrible free throw shooting
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Trey Ball
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posted 03-31-2019 04:43 PM
Auburn won the guard play and UK once again can’t make free throws in the NCAA Tournnament
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
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Trey Ball
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posted 03-31-2019 04:45 PM
PJ, Reid, and Johnson should have dominated in the paint today with any guard play at all
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
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rlt4uk
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posted 03-31-2019 04:54 PM
Cal says ft's won't get you beat
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CatFanInYankeeville
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posted 03-31-2019 05:09 PM
Why didn't we post up any more than we did? Travis and Washington looked great when they got the ball on the blocks...but we were content to play Tubby ball...pass the ball around the arc for 20 seconds and throw up a prayer.
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Trey Ball
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posted 03-31-2019 05:11 PM
CFIY,
Just my opinion but that all falls on the guards. I posted it earlier in the year. Our guards were clueless how to throw a post pass.
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Wife's Mad. Told me we never talk anymore. And just last nite while watching super bowl told her 2 or 3 times to get me a coke and popcorn. Also told her not to forget to take out trash in the morning. Ain't that something. Also told me I was too indecisive. Can't figure out what to do about that. One nice thing I guess. She called me a pro crastinator. Don't know what a crastinator is but I guess I'm a good one for her to call me a pro. Gonna wait til tomorrow to look that up though. I love her but somrtimes can't help but thinking I should have told uncle Junior to keep his coon hound pup and stevens double barrel and also his youngest daughter.
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EnterpriseCat
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posted 03-31-2019 05:18 PM
We may as well have left our PG’s in Lexington. They were awful today. Free throws have been a curse for Cal his entire career in the tournament. Left 13 available points at the free throw line. Pitiful
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rlt4uk
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posted 03-31-2019 05:18 PM
I hope none of our guards declare for the NBA, they're definitely not ready.
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rlt4uk
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posted 03-31-2019 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by EnterpriseCat:
We may as well have left our PG’s in Lexington. They were awful today. Free throws have been a curse for Cal his entire career in the tournament. Left 13 available points at the free throw line. Pitiful
Just one of those missed ft's in regulation and we win.
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posted 03-31-2019 05:47 PM
I do not see any NBA material in either Quickley or Hagans. They are too slow and are not good enough ball handlers to run an offense. WE will have both of them back for another year, all we can hope for is that Cal has recruited over them already. Maxey is better than either.
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m hamilton
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posted 03-31-2019 08:47 PM
Our guards were unable to enter the ball to the post all season long!
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m hamilton
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posted 03-31-2019 08:49 PM
It just seems to me like Hagans slowly regressed as the season went on. He had an outstanding game against UNC and it slowly trickled off from there!
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PaulCat
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posted 04-01-2019 08:21 AM
To me, the only player who got better as the season went on was PJ. Every one else played the last game like they played the first.
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Tiptree
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posted 04-01-2019 09:22 AM
PJ certainly improved in all facets (except, maybe, turnovers). His focus, effort, court awareness, decision making, and shooting all improved. He certainly strengthened his draft status.
Herro also improved or maintained. He was always one of the best at moving without the ball, and his defense became IMO the best of all the guards. His shooting was a little inconsistent, but I would feel very comfortable giving him the green light to launch in almost any possession. His glaring weakness was passing, especially passing into the post.
Hagans was a good point guard, but Auburn's guards were too fast and had too many weapons to use against him. I guess that makes him good, but not elite. He also was not very good at passing into the paint, and too many of his drives were ill conceived and led to turnovers. I like the fact that his 3-point shot improved over the season. He just needs to learn to make a good (timely) post pass and to make better decisions overall.
Quickly's shot also dramatically improved, but his floor skills were somewhat behind Hagans'. He is a serviceable combo guard who can provide minutes, but is not yet at the "starter" level. He plays good (but not great) defense, passes OK (but not great), and has good (but not great) court vision.
Johnson was just too inconsistent. When he is focused on the game, he can be an effective offensive force, either by driving or shooting the 3. His defense, however, was a problem, especially defense against 3-point shooters. He gave them too much room to shoot. He could develop into a great wing player if he focuses on his defense and his consistency.
Travis was a real 'wide body' -- big, tough, and seasoned. He developed into a reliable rebounder and low-post scorer, but he basically disappeared in the last two games, once PJ came back. We really needed him to work in tandem with PJ like before the injury, but he just deferred to him instead. I think Travis drove this team as a leader and a veteran. I will miss him next year.
Richards and Montgomery will be "the guys" inside next year. They need to work on their offense -- defensively, both showed great promise. Plus, they both need to bulk up and become dominant rebounders. If they want to put in the work, they can become a dominant inside duo.
I didn't see enough of Baker to make much commentary. He seems to be adequate on defense, but one-dimensional on offense. I hope he also comes back as a veteran leader for next year's team.
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PaulCat
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posted 04-01-2019 09:43 AM
I expected Quickley to be a much better shooter from the 3-point line. 34% is just ho-hum for someone described as a shooter who won the McDonald's 3-point contest.
Other than PJ, our 3-point shooting was bad. The thing is, how many times did we miss wide open 3's? You gotta knock those down.
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Bama Cat
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posted 04-01-2019 10:19 AM
Agree with just about everything you said Tip. We are now on the road to the 2020 final four. Hope Cal springs a couple surprises with his final signings for next year.
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ALA_KAT2
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posted 04-03-2019 11:00 AM
Tiptree, you stated that Herro’s glaring weakness was “passing into the post”. What does that say about the team as a whole when Herro was undoubtably our best passer into the post?
I think our offense should have run more through Herro, who can create off the bounce, is able to finish multiple ways, and hits free throws at almost a 95% clip.
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posted 04-03-2019 12:14 PM
Good defense will stop that since we have no one else who can hit from outside i.e. hero shut down as he was!
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Tiptree
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posted 04-03-2019 02:29 PM
ALA_KAT,
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Tiptree, you stated that Herro’s glaring weakness was “passing into the post”. What does that say about the team as a whole when Herro was undoubtably our best passer into the post?
It says nothing good, that is for sure. I remember many of his passes being intercepted, thrown to the wrong hand, or even blocked coming off his hand. Hagans was even worse, simply because he often wouldn't even see the post player had position, or would throw the pass too late.
I am not sure our offense should have run through Hero, because much of his effectiveness was created by his relentless motion without the ball. Hagans should have initiated every possession, Hero should have been second option, and a pass into the post should have been the priority. That was the kind of team we had, but we could not execute much of that.
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PaulCat
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posted 04-03-2019 02:58 PM
It was obvious that we had plays planned to get PJ or Travis the ball in the post. What irked me was we rarely had a play that would free up the outside shooter, mainly Herro. We would set a weak screen that was easily covered by a simple switch. There were no double screens, or double passes, or anything else that I saw that would get Herro an open look for three. I think all of his open looks were created by himself. Although PJ was adequate, Travis was terrible at hitting an open shooter when he was doubled teamed. I just wish we would've had more plays to free up the outside shot.
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