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Topic: Should Cal Redshirt Willis?
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Green-Bean
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posted 08-17-2014 08:49 PM
Your all's thoughts personally I think so, cause when willie and Lyles come back he will prolly be 12th man. any thoughts?
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posted 08-17-2014 09:50 PM
The way Cal recruits, I doubt that Derek will EVER get significant playing time. He'll be another John Hood, IF he stays.
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posted 08-17-2014 10:02 PM
The way Cal recruits there is no reason to redshirt anyone. If you can't get playing time this year what makes you think you can get it next year? No way. Cal has done this a couple times now. He goes out and signs a kid early for some reason. Maybe just to get the ball rolling. It hasn't panned out the way I see it. 3 of them have been freshmen and 1 a SO and 1 a JR.
2009-10 Hood
2010-11 Poole
2011-12 Beckham (Jr)
2012-13 Harrow (S0)
2013-14 Willis
All of these may not have been the first one to sign with UK but several were. Now we may be looking at another one next year with Matthews as he almost slid out of the top 100. He has come back up to #42 in the 247 poll. It just seems strange that we get some early signees that are just not good enough to get much PT.
[ 08-17-2014, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: Bama Cat ]
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posted 08-18-2014 09:29 AM
I don't see Willis ever getting any playing time under Cal. If I really wanted to play basketball and were Willis, I would transfer to another school. Willis did get significant playing time in the Bahamas and it does not look like he will fit into this years team other than as a bench warmer.
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posted 08-18-2014 10:17 AM
The sad part to me he is that he plenty good to not only play but start for most all division one teams in the country.
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posted 08-18-2014 11:21 AM
He's a Kentucky kid who will probably never make the NBA. If I was him, I'd rather sit the wood for UK than start for EKU. Honestly, I think he'll see the court this year and even more during his remaining years. During the Bahama exhibition games, I thought he played just as well, if not better, than Marcus Lee.
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posted 08-18-2014 11:36 AM
Me too Paulcat. I thought he showed real good athleticism, I did not know he had that kind of athleticism. His three point shooting was off but all other aspects of his game were good, including his defense. He played as well defensively as anyone on the team. If he gets his three point shot going with some consistency, he could possibly make and NBA team were he playing on a regular basis at the college level and I just don't see that happening with Cal.
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posted 08-18-2014 12:16 PM
scwc with cal u are right. like Bilas said willis could start for 250 division one teams.
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posted 08-18-2014 12:29 PM
I thought Willis played very good on the trip as well. Actually, I think every single player had a nice showing on the trip.
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posted 08-18-2014 12:36 PM
Trey I thought Hawkins played very well too, no one hardly mentions him.
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posted 08-18-2014 12:55 PM
Hawkins and Ulis were our best defenders on this trip, I was impressed with both and Hawkins actually took and made a couple of three point shots during the games, something we would never have seen him try last season. I was impressed with the efforts of all but am still concerned about consistent outside shooting.
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posted 08-18-2014 01:24 PM
We recruit shooters every year and we end up lamenting about our outside shooting. Lamb has been the exception. He seemed to be able to make the 3's with regularity. Wiltjer wasn't bad either. Booker is just starting so we'll have to wait and see. But if he doesn't start playing some defense he won't get a lot of time to find his shot. Just because he seems to be relaxed playing with these guys doesn't mean he has a guaranteed starting spot. Right now he would be behind Poythress and Lyles, and Lyles hasn't even played yet. I'm still hoping they can all get it together so we can continue the 2 platoon system at least with some of the lower teams we play. that's the only way I see some of these guys getting much PT. Otherwise it will be the Harrisons, Willie, Dakari, Karl, Tyler, Trey and Alex who form an 8 man rotation. Booker , Lee, Willis and Hawkins will mop up. Hope they all get better.
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posted 08-18-2014 01:49 PM
Cal has made public statements praising Willis, of late. I see no need to redshirt the young man and I also think that he will may a big contribution in his last year or two. Cal finally gets a few talented four year guys on the roster and some people think they should be redshirted. There will be games that may be good match ups for Willis or injuries or foul trouble could be factors. I wouldn't redshirt any player, unless they have an injury and can't go.
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posted 08-18-2014 03:23 PM
Boom if them some people are me u talking about? I did not say he should be redshirted I just ask a question. but cal will bury him on the bench just like he did last year.hes more athletic than dakari.imo
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posted 08-19-2014 12:24 PM
The only player I ever saw Cal offer to redshirt that was not injured, was Wiltjer, at least publicly anyway. I don't really know, but I suspect that Cal felt that that Wiltjer still had potential, despite being slow as Christmas on defense. Cal has stated before that he doesn't believe in redshirting players.
It seem to me that Willis is improving, from last season. But didn't get to see much of his play last year to really remember him.
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